Caucasian condescension on Asians? 27 replies

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Exploder

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#1 12 years ago

Here in Malaysia the one tale that circles around frequently is that Caucasian countries (America, Europe, and the Down Under countries) usually act as if they are superior to those in Asia, and mostly believe that nothing Asians do are possible or will work out properly without them, especially because the 21st century will be where Asian countries (eg China) become the most powerful. Westerners always treat us Asians like shit because of their "superiority" belief, or so local adults say. Also recently our former Prime Minster condemned Australia that they are less legible to join ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) than Russia because according to him, "Australians think they are superior to us Asians" or something (He probably said this in reference to the Australian guy who recently got executed in Singapore for bringing drugs)

I just want to ask: Is it true that the Western World (especially America, that's what most people here aim at in this subject) is like, against the Asians' growth in power and economy or something like most locals say? Or are people here just quite anti-Western?

P.S. Locals (Me included) are not racist against Westerners, they just feel that they have a "superiority" mentality that they dislike, much like how the world feels uncomfortable around Americans boasting "We're the best".




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#2 12 years ago

I've never heard about it here in Sweden. Mostly becuase most critisism is directed towards people from the middle east and Muslims rather than Asians. but honestly, I've never felt myself superior to others. I've never felt that my country is superior to any other. Sure, we have good military technology and the spirit to defend our country. But heck, we're only 9 million! And I don't think that that's the situation in any other country. he reason that I believe that Australia didn't join the ASEAN is because Australia is part of Oceania, not Asia. Then the term Caucasian, what do you mean by that? Aren't Caucasian people from Caucasus? Russia, Armenia, Gruzia (or what it's called) and Azerbaijan? I'm confused again. :(




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#3 12 years ago

Welcome back Exploder :wave:.

Well since asians are rather uncommon here I havn't really heard anyone talk about the subject :uhm:. But I guess the answer is no, atleast it is for me :).




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#4 12 years ago

ExploderIs it true that the Western World (especially America, that's what most people here aim at in this subject) is like, against the Asians' growth in power and economy or something like most locals say?[/quote]Americans in general? I don't know, I can't speak for my fellow Americans (and neither can anybody else, regardless of what they preach). The government, perhaps, but I don't think our government adequately represents the people.

Personally the only growth I'm against in the Asian nations is that of its population, and only for valid reasons (such as they have the highest growth rate [China, India, Bangladesh] and the planet just isn't big enough to hold that many people). I know things are improving, though slowly. I have no problem with Asian nations growing economcially. Personally I'm all for it, so long as they don't decide to come attack us or anything silly like that :lol:.

[quote=Nederbord]Then the term Caucasian, what do you mean by that?

To be simple, it means "white".




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#5 12 years ago

I have always believed in Azia being the future. They have been the workhorse for too long and with their economical strenght they now have, they will get a lead marketing positions in a few decennia.




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#6 12 years ago
Trollwarlord2I have always believed in Azia being the future. They have been the workhorse for too long and with their economical strenght they now have, they will get a lead marketing positions in a few decennia.

:agreed

I firmly believe that countries like Japan and China, and several other asian countries will become the new (super) powers in the world, not to long from now.

I have nothing against asians, even tho im not caucasian, im pretty western if i say so myself. I see asian people in general as honest and hardworking.. am i wrong? :lookaround:




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#7 12 years ago

WTF? Westen superiority? I'm from the US and i'll say it: You guys kick so much ass! Please take us over so I won't have to deal with mircosoft's shitty system anymore! I want Sony to make everything in the world! And besides, Asians are smarter, less lazy, and had rockets before we knew how to make a castle! ASIANS RULE!!!




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#8 12 years ago

i've been in england for 3 months and no one has ever behaved in that way , they were mostly normal or very helpful. i think it is just a misconception or due to the actions of a few.




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#9 12 years ago
Inyri ForgePersonally I'm all for it, so long as they don't decide to come attack us or anything silly like that :lol:.

Don't worry. That won't happen unless Taiwan decides to do something stupid at the wrong time. Like declaring itself independent from China.




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#10 12 years ago

Australia and New Zealand are in tricky cultural situations over ASEAN and the East Asia Forum. We are white, Western nations; but our locations mean that we are as far from Europe as you can get. For the entire lives of our nations, we have looked to Britain and the US for trade, and alliances. That isn't possible now, with the EU cutting us out from Britain and the Americans being far too picky. We're still too small to support each other more than we already do, and we can't compete with the Asian markets (who can?).

I don't think New Zealand should be a full member of ASEAN or any other Asia group, simply because we're not Asian nations. But, I think that we have to be there for the ASEAN meetings, as an observer.

There is an anti-immigrant feeling that is growing in Australia (look at the Cronulla riots the other weekend), and there is a small movement in New Zealand too (last year around 20 members National Front had a protest outside Parliament, they were met by the Faeries Against Fascism and about 2000 counterprotesters, the NF got the shit smashed out of them :lol:), but New Zealand is adapting better than Australia in regards to Asian relations.

We have people like Pansy Wong (Asian MP for at least the past 6 years) and Lincoln Tan (editor of Yolk* magazine) and Raybon Kan (comedian) who keep intercomunal relations strong. As the second and third generations come into the society, people get more accepting.

Still, there a long way to go, everyone (even second/third-generation Asians:eek:, it was on TV) think that the worst drivers in the country are Asians, and there have been murders and strange-goings-on in some English language schools, as a lot of Japanese students who can't hack their school system come here and are often put into exclusive boarding schools by their parents; whereas it's the ones in the public system that do the best.