25th September 2006
Lately this has been in the news, and I talked to a few people about it. so heres whats up:
Basically, The governor of Texas is making mandatory for young women (preferably about 12-16 years of age) to be vaccinated against cervical cancer, which is usually given by sexual intercourse by a guy who has genital warts.
Many conservatives argue that this vaccine should not even exist as it encourages pre-marital sex. Giving the teens a feeling that they can have sex and be safe. But they (the conservatives) say that the only way to avoid STDs is abstinence until marriage.
This new vaccine is becoming popular in many states and may be made mandatory for young women to take this vaccine starting in 2008.
If you want, Read more here- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/30/AR2005103000747.html
My personal feelings about this is that it should be recommended, but not mandatory as making things such as vaccines mandatory is rather unconstitutional. What do you think?
18th November 2004
There's no way to prevent underage sex. The Conservatives might as well get used to the idea and take action about it. The vaccination is a good idea. If you have sex, it'll help. If you don't, it won't do you any harm.
suburban baroness of bud
19th April 2005
I think making it mandatory is a good idea, actually. It would save embarrassment for a girl, because who wants to ask their parents for a cervical cancer vaccine? It'd raise a lot of questions.
And how is making a vaccine mandatory unconstitutional? Schools require stuff like that all the time.
Sounds like a perfectly good program. It’ll prevent some young women from developing a potentially fatal (now preventable) illness. Conservatives zealots believe values are as precious as life itself. Accordingly, one and all can see how precious these values are, by the realities of their struggle to restrain and restrict a mere vaccine. The hypocrisy is priceless.
Paladin: The Holy Knight
16th March 2005
I'm against forced vacination, simply because vacines can and do contain some rather bad after effects that may be long term, asking for a vaccination may be embarising and question raising, but better yet, said vacinations should be provided free and without need of parental consent so no need to ask, simply go and do it if you feel you need to and the risks are worth it.
The conservatives here are those that make me look like a hippy, this abstinence bullshit goes in one ear and our the other for the kids that don't give a damn, and those that do start to get the message that what these people are doing is manipulating people and sending false and confusing messages to scare people.
I agree that it shouldn't be mandatory simply because I also think forced vaccinations are unconstitutional. However I don't think parents allowing their kids to get the vaccine will somehow corrupt the youth. Hell kids hit puberty for a reason. Once they hit puberty their body is telling them they are ready, and whenever nature and culture conflict, nature wins.
Lord of the Peach
19th April 2004
Let the parents choose. That way we don't have to put with another argument over small things like this. Let the parents raise the kids, not the village.
If I had a girl, I would get her this vaccine. $350 is cheap compared to the cost of treating cancer. I would still watch who she is with. I don't want to see my own daughter end up with a kid or some nasty disease.
Just becuase you are vaccinated aganist something does not mean you have to go out and play with the disease. You don't see people who got the hepatatis vaccine going out and playing with poo and dirty needles. I think it will be the same case with this vaccine. It won't stop all the other fun STD's, and it won't stop a girl from getting pregenant.
22nd March 2006
It wouldn't have been so bad if Rick Perry wouldn't have gotten a ton of money from the drug developers during his reelection campaign. It should have gone through the legislature. What he's doing is cutting the lawmakers out of the equation. By doing this he gives those opposed to it a better argument against it.
Snipes With Artillery
22nd March 2005
I say make it mandatory, or at least give big incentives to people that do. If this vaccine works, we can eradicate 70% of HPV strains within a few generations.
Pethegreat;3550493Let the parents raise the kids, not the village.[/quote] Sure why not, all the successful villages out there will attest to that effective method.Pethegreat;3550493I would still watch who she is with. I don't want to see my own daughter end up with a kid or some nasty disease.[/quote] Brilliant! We all know that what a person looks like, denotes what kind of biological infections one may or may not have.That’s a choice, not an instinctual impulse. Do you even know what either are? [quote=Pethegreat;3550493]I think it will be the same case with this vaccine. It won't stop all the other fun STD's, and it won't stop a girl from getting pregenant.Pethegreat;3550493Just becuase you are vaccinated aganist something does not mean you have to go out and play with the disease.Just because you hide from sex, doesn’t mean everyone should. Also, point of fact it’s not “playing”, sex drive is a biological imperative that all people intrinsically have, with the exception of very few... [quote=Pethegreat;3550493]You don't see people who got the hepatatis vaccine going out and playing with poo and dirty needles.
Who said it would. Dont attempt to derail this into a debate on preventing ALL STD’s or pregnancies. No one, including the manufacturer claims it will. The vacine is for the onset of cervical CANCER from a specific STD, this vacine is not meant for, nor implied for, the prevention of pregnancies or every known STD. How redundant can you get? Shall we discuss the price of tea in china, or the whole sale market of soy beans as well?