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WarHawk109

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#1 11 years ago

CARACAS, Venezuela, Feb. 16 — Faced with an accelerating inflation rate and shortages of basic foods like beef, chicken and milk, President Hugo Chávez has threatened to jail grocery store owners and nationalize their businesses if they violate the country’s expanding price controls.

Food producers and economists say the measures announced late Thursday night, which include removing three zeroes from the denomination of Venezuela’s currency, are likely to backfire and generate even more acute shortages and higher prices for consumers. Inflation climbed to an annual rate of 18.4 percent a year in January, the highest in Latin America and far above the official target of 10 to 12 percent.

Mr. Chávez, whose leftist populism remains highly popular among Venezuela’s poor and working classes, seemed unfazed by criticism of his policies. Appearing live on national television, he called for the creation of “committees of social control,” essentially groups of his political supporters whose purpose would be to report on farmers, ranchers, supermarket owners and street vendors who circumvent the state’s effort to control food prices.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/17/world/americas/17venezuela.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

In case you haven't heard yet Chavez can now rule by decree.

Nope he sure isn't a dictator! :rolleyes:




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#2 11 years ago

I don't like the man, Chavez likes to play a tough guy and act as some sort of a hero even though he thinks too much about himself and his level of knowledge. Not to mention that he's actually dangerous for his own people who just don't know it yet.




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#3 11 years ago

He’s a wack-job street thug. If he were here in the states, he’d be nothing but a diaper stain gangbanger in dire need of a bullet or severe ass beat’n. Anyway – it’s a dictatorship. He can do pretty much whatever he wants, until someone kills him; which is the way most dictators retire.




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#4 11 years ago

Good for him, I would have done the same thing.

You guys seem to have no idea how it is to live on a country where prices are dictated by how corporations feel like. In some countries, prices are just like in the US, yet salaries are 10 times lower. I'm not talking about imported electronics, but basic necesities that are not imported. No wonder their sinking. Chavez is doing a good thing here. If the Mexicans would do the same thing, maybe they would stop invading the US by jumping the fence.

Oh, he's not a dictator you idiot. If their people agree with wtf he's doing, you have no right to bitch about it. Even dictatorship is right as long as the people of the country agree with it. As long as he was voted, he's doing nothing wrong, so stfu about it.




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#5 11 years ago
Decebalus;3544518Good for him, I would have done the same thing. You guys seem to have no idea how it is to live on a country where prices are dictated by how corporations feel like. In some countries, prices are just like in the US, yet salaries are 10 times lower. I'm not talking about imported electronics, but basic necesities that are not imported. No wonder their sinking. Chavez is doing a good thing here. If the Mexicans would do the same thing, maybe they would stop invading the US by jumping the fence.

You have a good argument, “good people” should have a right to make an honest days pay and be able to provide for their families with the intent to better themselves…Chavez is just not the right man to be leading these people, many of which despise him, but fear back lashing or worse if they openly speak out. Many that put him in power are now regretting doing so – I really don’t believe they thought he would take the power given to him in the direction he has and continues to go.




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#6 11 years ago

Decebalus;3544518Good for him, I would have done the same thing.

You guys seem to have no idea how it is to live on a country where prices are dictated by how corporations feel like. In some countries, prices are just like in the US, yet salaries are 10 times lower. I'm not talking about imported electronics, but basic necesities that are not imported. No wonder their sinking. Chavez is doing a good thing here. If the Mexicans would do the same thing, maybe they would stop invading the US by jumping the fence.

So you think it's a good thing to force food shortages, and rationing?

Oh, he's not a dictator you idiot. If their people agree with wtf he's doing, you have no right to bitch about it.

Chavez can rule by decree.

If Bush had that very same power, you'd be saying the exact same thing I am about Chavez.

Even dictatorship is right as long as the people of the country agree with it. As long as he was voted, he's doing nothing wrong, so stfu about it.

Hitler was voted in, he held plebecites etc. Does that make what he did right?




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#7 11 years ago

I can't say that is a bad thing. Socialism and even Communism are good systems in developing nations. I don't see why everyone is so quick to condem socialists and commies, if you lived in a Venezewala as an average person you'd think socialism is great too.

But socialism and communism under one party or dictorial rule is not good. Cuba, China, Vietnam, the good old USSR, and North Korea are an example of it gone corrupt. But Europe and other western places show it's potentonal.

So I only have the beef with the dictatorship. Chavez is just another dictator due for a CIA backed coup.




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#8 11 years ago
Chavez is just not the right man to be leading these people, many of which despise him, but fear back lashing or worse if they openly speak out. Many that put him in power are now regretting doing so – I really don’t believe they thought he would take the power given to him in the direction he has and continues to go.

He was voted in, so that means they like him. Everybody hates Bush, but as long as he was voted in, too bad. Your basically saying they voted for the wrong person? History will tell that, but even so, Chavez did nothing wrong yet.

So you think it's a good thing to force food shortages, and rationing?

How is he forcing food shortages? I would say he's making super rich companies who benefit off poor people a little less rich. And that is a bad thing why?

Chavez can rule by decree. If Bush had that very same power, you'd be saying the exact same thing I am about Chavez.

Venezuela is so screwed up, in order to get things done, you really need to rule by degree. The US has checks and balances, its different. But in a system so corrupt like Venezuela, to change things you need to play hard.

Hitler was voted in, he held plebecites etc. Does that make what he did right?

I don't even know why you compare the two.. but.... Chavez hasn't done anything against international rules. He hasn't started wars, everything he's doing is for his country. Your making stupid assumptions.

I don't get why you people support dictators like Pinochet and Saddam when it fits your agenda, and talk about others who were voted in.

Till Chavez invades a coutry or does something stupid, we shouldn't talk like that.

If you want to bitch about dictators there are a lot of them in Africa who are true dicators who do wtf they want. So go bitch about that.




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#9 11 years ago
Decebalus;3544609How is he forcing food shortages? I would say he's making super rich companies who benefit off poor people a little less rich. And that is a bad thing why?

He is forcing food shortages because he is messing with the laws of supply and demand.

Lower prices mean more demand. More demand = less supply. Economics in simple terms for you to understand.

Venezuela is so screwed up, in order to get things done, you really need to rule by degree. The US has checks and balances, its different. But in a system so corrupt like Venezuela, to change things you need to play hard.

So the ends justify the means? I see.

I don't even know why you compare the two.. but.... Chavez hasn't done anything against international rules. He hasn't started wars, everything he's doing is for his country. Your making stupid assumptions.

I don't get why you people support dictators like Pinochet and Saddam when it fits your agenda, and talk about others who were voted in.

Till Chavez invades a coutry or does something stupid, we shouldn't talk like that.

If you want to bitch about dictators there are a lot of them in Africa who are true dicators who do wtf they want. So go bitch about that.

I wasn't aware that breaking "international rules" was a requirement to discussing the merits or the mistakes of any nation.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Cambodia didn't invade anyone did they? But that doesn't stop us from talking about the killing fields. Using your logic we couldn't question the Khmer Rouge, because they were "doing it for their country."




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#10 11 years ago

Chavez is a moron in general. I just don't like him much, because he is much too arrogant.

I believe in a free market (mostly), but some government influence can help from time to time. So, maybe the moron is doing something right.