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#1 13 years ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_un_population_fund

The administration decision was disclosed in a letter from Under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns to key senators. Congress had appropriated $34 million for the program, but gave President Bush the authority to decline to spend the money.

Is there any specific reason to why this money was not given to help the people of China? It seems as if GWB is going by his personal beliefs ahead of United States interest...




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Let me put it this way, the abortion this is denied for usually isn't concentual. There are recoded cases of women being forced to abort a pregnancey if they violate the 1 child rule. Also, much of the 1 child law enforced abortion, even if concentual takes place during the 3rd trimester. We know that a baby gains its senses (including the ability to feel pain) at a around 5-6 months, which is why third trimester, and late second trimester abortions are usually banned. Also, premature babies are regularly born and live at 6 months and earlier. This is another reason why abortions are usually banned within these dates; it seems foolhardy to consider a baby born at 6 months life, while to not to consider a "fetus" of the same stage of development life.




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#3 13 years ago

I don't like China's 1 child rule and coercive abortion policies, but I think it was a mistake not to give to this fund.




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#4 13 years ago
Jeffrohttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_un_population_fund Is there any specific reason to why this money was not given to help the people of China? It seems as if GWB is going by his personal beliefs ahead of United States interest...

No he is not using his own personsal intrests in this one, he is defending the unborn. Now smile jeffro, you could have been aborted. There is a much easer way to do this. When a mother has her 1st child, tie her tubes for no cost. its around %99 effective and it always is working.




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#5 13 years ago
Pethegreat™No he is not using his own personsal intrests in this one, he is defending the unborn. Now smile jeffro, you could have been aborted. There is a much easer way to do this. When a mother has her 1st child, tie her tubes for no cost. its around %99 effective and it always is working.

Yeah, I could have been aborted considering I'm the third child of the family. :rolleyes:




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#6 13 years ago
Blood n GutsLet me put it this way, the abortion this is denied for usually isn't concentual. There are recoded cases of women being forced to abort a pregnancey if they violate the 1 child rule.

Agreed, many of these abortions that the fund could be financing may not be at the women’s choice, it may very well be forced upon her by the Chinese governments attempt to enforce the 1 child law.


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#7 13 years ago

I really don't mean to sound harsh here, but is it wrong for China to have population control?

There are 1,306,313,812 people living in China and I imagine that number grows daily. Could you imagine if there wasn't any rule on limiting births? There would probably would be hunger, disease, over-crowdedness, etc...

Just food for thought.




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#8 13 years ago
JeffroI really don't mean to sound harsh here, but is it wrong for China to have population control?

No, it's their country, they can do what they want. But is it wrong that I don't want my tax dollars going to the enforcement of such programs? No. Is it also wrong that Bush doesn’t want our tax dollars going to enforcement of such programs? No.


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#9 13 years ago

what is this 1 child law?




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#10 13 years ago
Lord Abrarurwhat is this 1 child law?

"The one-child policy was established in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. It limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies." They have become more relaxed but it is still a strongly enforced policy in China. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_child_policy http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Oct/46138.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/941511.stm


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