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Solace92

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#1 8 years ago

What are your thoughts on the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882? This law banned the immigration of Chinese people from the United States. This made Chinese people the only people not allowed to immigrate to the United States. I for one think it's a part of our history that we should not be so proud of. What's your take on this?

Would you like to know more: Chinese Exclusion Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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#2 8 years ago

They had their reasons, which might've made sense at a different period in time.




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#3 8 years ago
Authuran;5421910They had their reasons, which might've made sense at a different period in time.

The reasons being?

It can't be as bad as the 'Big Red Scare'. Just seems odd to me.




Pb2Au

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#4 8 years ago

The way I see it, there are two types of exclusion:

Exclusion because a certain group of people refuse to integrate, and Exclusion because of xenophobia

The Chinese exclusion act was based purely on xenophobia and is therefore unjustified. The Chinese population in the American West was skyrocketing, and although they did their best to integrate into US life they were prevented from doing so by Americans.

Compare that to situations in modern Europe, where Muslim populations largely resist integration and attempt to replicate life exactly as it was in their home country. I think, in that case, an argument for exclusion can be made. It looks like that's the way many countries in Western Europe are headed, considering the PVV in Holland, Merkel's 'Multikult Failure' speech in Germany, anti-immigrant sentiments in France and Russia, etc.




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#5 8 years ago

I'm inclined to agree with you Pb2Au. Though the real reason/demand for exclusion might be more complex ... or very simple: being lead by emotion rather then facts, generalising, over simplifying, not taking into account the various complex effects that exclusion or any other such things may have, and so on.

As for the Chinese Exclusion act, I can't say I'm very informed about what made people consider writing such a bill, let alone pass it. In my view it's wrong to exclude people on general backgrounds (gender, political views, sexual preferance, race, religion, origin, place of residence etc. etc.).




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#6 8 years ago

Granyaski;5421913The reasons being?

It can't be as bad as the 'Big Red Scare'. Just seems odd to me.

Fear of a cultural takeover? That's always been the problem with America's immigrant development.




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#7 8 years ago

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Compare that to situations in modern Europe, where Muslim populations largely resist integration and attempt to replicate life exactly as it was in their home country. I think, in that case, an argument for exclusion can be made. It looks like that's the way many countries in Western Europe are headed, considering the PVV in Holland, Merkel's 'Multikult Failure' speech in Germany, anti-immigrant sentiments in France and Russia, etc.

That's always been kind of a mystery to me. Same thing in the USA. Why the hell would someone go through all the trouble to get through our Western border, then go to protests and wave around Mexican flags. If they love Mexico so much why didn't they just stay there?




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#8 8 years ago
Bohemund;5422017That's always been kind of a mystery to me. Same thing in the USA. Why the hell would someone go through all the trouble to get through our Western border, then go to protests and wave around Mexican flags. If they love Mexico so much why didn't they just stay there?

Well there's always some amount of desire to preserve your own culture when you come to a foreign country. You can't blame the Mexicans for it when it's also the fundamental reason the Puritans settled in America in the first place! After leaving England, they first went to Holland and found religious acceptance there. But they set off for America because they felt their children were growing up too Dutch. They didn't want their descendants to fully integrate and lose their culture, so they left Holland for an 'unsettled' country (ignoring the Indians of course). For better or worse, that option no longer exists because there are no unsettled parts of the globe. That's one extreme (desire to perfectly replicate your native culture). The other extreme is equally tragic: second-generation immigrants who can't speak their parents' language. That happens to a lot of European immigrants to America. Their parents were so afraid that they wouldn't integrate that they only taught them English. I think it's a sin to just throw away your old culture like that.




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#9 8 years ago

We have allot of Chinese people coming to Australia, and for the bulk, there lovely people, but there is still a large percentage that refuse to adapt to Australian ways and so form really large groups in some places and don't speak English and the signs on the shops are written in Chinese, we have a china town in most capitol cities now, l think this is wrong and should change, they should be forced to learn our language and adapt to our way of life or go back to china.The triads are an issue in Australia as well. And Chinese people are taught and brought up in china to be a servant of china no matter what country they live in, effectively spawning allot of unknown spies. Now if china was a free and democratic country l dought we would be bothered at all, but there not, and there a scary communist country as well.They control there media like no other country even comes close too . Its a little spooky. Maybe the Americans were afraid of all the same sort of issues back then, and a huge influx of Chinese people back then could have been seen as invasion by stealth, the sheer numbers are frightening.




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#10 8 years ago

IIRC, the act was because of increasing Chinese labor in the west. Sort of like how Americans hated the Irish workers who were coming over earlier in the century. They took their jobs! So not really based on pure hatred of other cultures. But I mean I think it was unconstitutional even at the time.




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