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#181 11 years ago
Sedistix;4785889That and the fact that most new theories don't involve superstitious deities either.

So you just don't like it because it proposes that men may naturally be inclined to have religious views? Even you have "religious" views in the sense you have beliefs regarding what (or in your case what does not) await us after life, rather than being purely agnostic.




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#182 11 years ago
Stryker500;4785893So you just don't like it because it proposes that men may naturally be inclined to have religious views? Even you have "religious" views in the sense you have beliefs regarding what (or in your case what does not) await us after life, rather than being purely agnostic.

Actually I disagree with it because the “gay gene” was disproved awhile ago, which pretty much negates this one as well. That’s my primary reason for discarding it as rubbish, but the supernatural over tones, those are even more of a sign of what kind of science this is, or lack thereof.

New research from the University of Western Ontario (UWO) in London, published in today's issue of Science magazine, has again disproved the existence of a genetic basis for homosexuality. In 1993, a team led by Dean Hamer of the US National Institute of Health (NIH) claimed to have found evidence for a "gay gene" by studying the X chromosomes of 40 pairs of homosexual brothers. In an attempt to replicate Hammer's findings, Dr. George Rice and his team looked at 52 pairs of gay brothers and found no evidence for a "gay gene." Academic Press :: Trusted Scholarly Excellence

As for religious beliefs about death. lol I dont have any views on death, its the end, what else is there to say about it. We'll go back to where we were before we were born, nonexistence.




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#183 11 years ago

Sedistix;4785900Actually I disagree with it because the “gay gene” was disproved awhile ago, which pretty much negates this one as well. That’s my primary reason for discarding it as rubbish, but the supernatural over tones, those are even more of a sign of what kind of science this is, or lack thereof. [/quote]

Odd, I thought the "gay gene" was still considered a pretty valid possibility, although I don't have much of an interest in that subject. The gay pride groups seem to propose it often enough.

[quote=Sedistix;4785900] As for religious beliefs about death. lol I dont have any views on death, its the end, what else is there to say about it. We'll go back to where we were before we were born, nonexistence.

Well technically that is still a belief, as there is no evidence to point towards such and it takes some amount of faith to convince one's self that there is truly nothing.

The only non-belief I suppose would be if you were completely agnostic towards the subject.




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#184 11 years ago
Stryker500;4785913 Well technically that is still a belief, as there is no evidence to point towards such and it takes some amount of faith to convince one's self that there is truly nothing.

Its not about convincing, its about the absence of substantive evidence supporting theistic claims. I don't need to convince myself the snakes don't talk, or that not collection stamps is a hobby.




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#185 11 years ago
Well technically that is still a belief, as there is no evidence to point towards such and it takes some amount of faith to convince one's self that there is truly nothing.

Not really. I didn't see any evidence of any life after life before my birth, and in the absence of such evidence, I shall just assume the most logical explanation: that there actually is nothing.




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#186 11 years ago
So you just don't like it because it proposes that men may naturally be inclined to have religious views? Even you have "religious" views in the sense you have beliefs regarding what (or in your case what does not) await us after life, rather than being purely agnostic.

I may be a die hard atheist, but this is a point I have to agree on. Humanity does have a very very strong tendency to be extremely self centered and at the same time hold a phobia of the outside. The creation of various crutches helps and probably helped humanity as a whole get past.

Though generally the better of a society is, the less religious it also is. Although this is not a general rule. One could start with Comte and how society goes trough 3 phases Theological metaphysical positivistic.

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#187 11 years ago

I can believe that as i know no christians at all!




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#188 11 years ago
Sedistix;4785734I'm well versed in religions, and believe it or not was once considering the seminary for my life.

Interesting. Charles Darwin was also studying for a religious career on the Beagle. And if I recall correctly, the whole idea of transmutation/evolution was orginally conceived by a priest, I wish I could recall his name.

Whats to care about? You should be caring about the here and now, not some fairy tales you were told as a child. Its because of this nonsense people disconnect themselves from reality and apathy reigns supreme. Why give a shit about poverty, disease, and other worldly ills. This life is just a pit stop on the road to somewhere else, right?

An insightful point, considering that religion is the most widespread in cultures suffering from physical hardship. Its just a way people cope with a miserable life. Sure, sometime in the future these populations will have decent living conditions, but until then people need hope.

Its people like that who are the most dangerous to this world, people like you.

Now now, let's not get personal.

Creating answers from fear is not science.

Very true. And considering the mass hysteria from peak oil, global warming, etc etc, there is way too much emotion involved in scientific community right now. A scientist must retain a detached attitude to have truly unbiased conclusion.

Judging? I bet you do a lot of that eh? You would be mistaken to believe my avatar means anything other then what it illustrates. You have no idea what I do or don't believe.

It is a good question though- the avatar shows a religious symbol being discarded, which implies that humanity has found a superior altern




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#189 11 years ago
Bohemund;4803478An insightful point, considering that religion is the most widespread in cultures suffering from physical hardship. Its just a way people cope with a miserable life. Sure, sometime in the future these populations will have decent living conditions, but until then people need hope.

It should be noted there is no world culture that is atheist. Every culture in all of history has had a religion of some kind (though many individuals operating outside of the norms of their culture are atheist.)

Just some food for thought.




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#190 11 years ago

what I meant is that the more poverty is in a religion, the more successful Christian and Islamic missionaries are in converting people.