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fahrenheitunreachable33

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#1 12 years ago

Do you think cloning is right? We have examples of the controversial experiment of Dolly the sheep. I don't think it's right. P.S: Did anyone ever see Multiplicity?




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#2 12 years ago
Jello BiafraFor some reason that doesn't worry me, I think we've had human cloning for as long as we've been alive... it's called the US public school system

However, I disgress,

This is one of the issues I find simply wrong. I can't really explain why. Perhaps its the playing around with the simple bits of human and non-human life. I don't know for sure. I just know that it seems too wrong for me to ever support it.




SilentHitz

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#3 12 years ago

I also don't approve of cloning. They have cloned sheep, cows, dogs, and cats...why?!? There is no shortage of these animals that breed very well on their own. I don't want cloned food in the food chain! Hell, they don't even know the long term effects of eating whatever they're trying to make. Although it's illegal...I bet someone somewhere is already messing with human cloning experiments now. Humans too can survive just fine without our "brilliant" scientists help. :rolleyes:




fahrenheitunreachable33

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#4 12 years ago

Did anyone watch the satirical show "Time Trumpet with Armando Iannuci"? Because it has a really funny take on cloning.




fahrenheitunreachable33

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#5 12 years ago

I agree. Cloning is just a waste of time and is unnecessary. All it is is an attempt to make science look 'cool' to the younger generation and an attempt to get on the news.




Karst

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#6 12 years ago

That question isn't precise enough. Cloning what? And for which purpose? I think cloning organs for medical purposes is a good idea, for example.




Nemmerle Forum Mod

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#7 12 years ago

Looking at what's happened with GM crops I don't think it's a great idea to all out clone human beings. With GM crops some companies researched the genes of a certain thing and then they said that they own that thing. And as they have done with several GM crops they're going to make it so that the result cannot reproduce itself so that if people want another crop they have to buy it. I can only imagine how that's going to be twisted to apply to people but the idea of a company owning a person's genetic makeup is not something that I would readily buy into.




SilentHitz

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#8 12 years ago

Nemmerle made a very good point. What about ownership of genetic information? That's a VERY slippery slope I don't think we should slide down!:nodding:




hadeez

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#9 12 years ago

If they're going to clone anything at least clone endangered animals the idiotic Chinese hunt down and sell for 20p.. Cloning is a disagree and agree matter. In my case I disagree.. You don't need to play around with people's DNA and genetic information.. Let the live and die.. No cloning.




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#10 12 years ago

What kind of cloning?

There's cloning entire organisms, entire organs, entire cells...Which one are we picking here?

I guess I'm a touch open minded when it comes to these things, because I don't see a problem with the principle of cloning in itself. No one seems to consider the medical implications of a million cloned hearts for dying patients (Theoretical example).

What has to be considered is the nature of birth in mammals/others. Simplified - 50% of genes from a mother and father enter a single cell which splits, and splits, and enters the womb. In reality, this isn't all that much different from the simplified concept of cloning - It's just that 100% of the DNA is coming from one organism.

Bacteria divides, 100% of the DNA comes from that bacteria. Asexual reproduction involves 100% of the genes from one organism...I don't see the issue at hand, we're merely taking a process that essentially exists in nature.

As for cloning organs and cells, there are *huge* medical benefits from this. You could eliminate organ donors, for example. You could treat some genetic issues, you could make the entire human race better.

NemmerleLooking at what's happened with GM crops

Surely genetic modification is an entirely different ballgame in this sense? I appreciate its relevancy, and that in a sense cloning is genetic modification, but the terms themselves differ in concept, right?