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Pethegreat VIP Member

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#1 12 years ago

This may turn into something intresting.

AMBRIDGE - An Ambridge Area School Board member's derogatory remark, made during a public meeting last week and in reference to a new gay and lesbian extracurricular club, had several residents calling for his resignation Wednesday night. Mary Jo Kehoe of Economy told the board Wednesday she couldn't believe her ears so she jotted down what Ambridge School Board Vice President William Scherfel said when he referred to the high school's new Gay-Straight Alliance group as a "sex club" during a Nov. 8 work session. She said when two board members tried to correct Scherfel's politically-incorrect blunder by telling him the club's formal name, Scherfel replied, "OK, the faggots." "I personally found it very offensive," Kehoe said. Adam Smith of Ambridge, the senior who founded the club, also found Scherfel's words distasteful. He said the club's mission is to promote diversity and confront discrimination and homophobia. He invited Scherfel to a club meeting. He also asked for a written apology and Scherfel's resignation. "It's uncalled for, and it's wrong," Smith said. Scherfel didn't deny he used "the F-word," but blamed the controversy on politics. After Jim Best of Economy told Scherfel he was "damaged goods" and that he should no longer sit on the board, Scherfel said he would not resign. He would have to be voted off the board. "I apologize for saying it, and in public. Are you satisfied?" he said. Scherfel, 65, said he has nothing against anyone's sexual orientation, but that he grew up in a different generation when certain terms were acceptable in referring to gays and other groups. When reached at his home earlier Wednesday, Scherfel chuckled at the thought that someone would consider him a "gay basher," saying he couldn't recall exactly what he said, but that he has always been regarded by some as offensive because he is forthright and outspoken. Once he offended some parents and students by suggesting the district get rid of band so they could buy textbooks, he said. "I have homosexual friends believe it or not...," he said. Board president Bernard Logan defended Scherfel, saying no one is perfect, and at least one board member, Kevin Blanarik admitted he heard the remark but didn't think it should have become an issue. "I didn't appreciate the comment because I don't speak like that, but he didn't say it as if he was trying to be mean," Blanarik said. Several students requested the GSA club, which is comprised of gay, lesbian, bisexual, straight and questioning students. The board approved it last month, Scherfel included. Ambridge is the only Beaver County school district to have such a club.

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This is my school district. It is ironic the club was approved 9-0, yet we have a board member calling them names. He is pulling a John Kerry on this issue. He says something uncalled for and then says he did not mean it they way it was taken.

I have few issues with the club. I can see a 17/18 knowing he/she is a homosexual, but how can a 14/15 year old know his orientation? The founders of this club are quiet people who did not want to make an incident out of this. The guy who founded it is a senior, so he is out after this year. I am wondering if louder people will come into this club and use it as a tool to get funding for protests. This club is supposed to help gays and straights get along better.

The board member who said the comments is not well liked as it is. Hopefully he will resign or get voted out next election. He is not doing anything good for my school.

Thoughts? Comments?




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#2 12 years ago

In an official position it's never a good idea to insult a minority, so I think it would be good if he resigns or is thrown out.




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#3 12 years ago

People in that age group use their age to get out of saying/doing dumb shit all the time. It's one of the unsaid universal perks of being elderly.

There are some people who know right away that their into the opposite sex. A lot of them find themselves living very lonely lives growing up. If they can have a club for themselves maybe they'll be healthier socially for it. The only thing i would worry about is people being singled out for involvement in the group. At that age being kids don't look kindly to differences of any type.




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#4 12 years ago
I have few issues with the club. I can see a 17/18 knowing he/she is a homosexual, but how can a 14/15 year old know his orientation?

Easy. These jokers tell him what he is, and he believes them.

I am wondering if louder people will come into this club and use it as a tool to get funding for protests. This club is supposed to help gays and straights get along better.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Political expediency trumps politeness these days.




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#5 12 years ago

Haha, I would've said the same thing, believe it or not...




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#6 12 years ago

Even if this guy has "gay friends", or didn't mean any malice by using the word, it's still a derogatory term. There should be repercussions.




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#7 12 years ago
I have few issues with the club. I can see a 17/18 knowing he/she is a homosexual, but how can a 14/15 year old know his orientation?

I see a lot of 14-15 year olds "knowing their orientation" (read: falling in love with people, checking out others of the same age, and what the Heck not). Trust me, they know:).

Even if this guy has "gay friends", or didn't mean any malice by using the word, it's still a derogatory term. There should be repercussions.

I've got dark-skinned friends, I suppose that means I can call Africans "nig***s".

Easy. These jokers tell him what he is, and he believes them.

You just have to show me the source you base this statement on.

When I fell in love at fifteen, it was sure as Heck not due to someone "telling me" I was straight. I figured that out quite nicely myself.




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#8 12 years ago

Well if he respects gays and it's on some sort of anti homo crusade I don't see the big deal. The words he may have used are wrong though but he said he could have picked them more carefully and that is it. If somebody would say overhere "A so it's a club for black people / ******s" (mind you that "negers", isn't as negativly loaded as it is in the US!) most people would either not bother with it or comment that that person should have picked his words more carefully.

It's not always all about the words use but the whole meaning and motivation behind it. ;)

"I aprove of this club for faggots" isn't nicely worded but basically the same as "I aprove of this cub for homosexuals" (or worse "sexually challenged" :rofl: ). "hang them homosexuals" still is a bad thing to say. As you see it's not only about the words used.