For the conservatives out there id like to share my political views on todays world powers and learders. What if i were to tell you i did not swell with anger when i saw bin ladin's face on t.v? Would this mean that i am agaisnt the american goverment, moreover, america? Or does it mean i have failed to be indoctorinated By the bush administration. I livd near Sanf Fransisco a few years ago and there i learned a diffrent story then the ones conservative childrene in the "red states" learn. I was not taught to fear sadam hussein, or irak or terrorist. I was no taugh to judge the worth of two diffrent human lives. I was certanly never told that to save some inocent people, the Bush administration would say the world but notably its americans, others should die. Of course everyone has goten tired of this statment, the press makes it, essays fom small universities it, but it would be interesting to raise it again. Personally ive always thought it was good to get both sides of a story. This goes from school argument, to problemes in my family, to politics. So I would love some strong minded conservatives to reply to this. At the moment i dont have much information to post or a strong argument but i will post essays and collumns later on.
maddocWhat if i were to tell you i did not swell with anger when i saw bin ladin's face on t.v?
I have to disagree. Someone who orders 19 hijackers to smash airplanes into our skyscrapers and kills 3,000 Americans has a lot to answer for. Few people so deserve a bullet between the eyes. BTW, I don't consider myself conservative. I'd consider myself a centrist or moderate nowadays, not really affiliated with any party. Bush also has a lot to answer for, but that's a subject for a different thread.
Conservatives need you to be scared and to be angery or else their campaign in america would be nothing more then hot air. Besides, Bush has already switched his focus to oil, he no longer cares about Bin laden, he has said a number of times, he does not care where he is, and it's likely that he'll never be caught because of americas corporation ties with the bin laden family are too tight.
Nah, you're wrong about the oil. How exactly would catching Osama disrupt business with the Saudis? I don't think the bin Ladens (other than Osama) would get angry at us. Yes, our politics after 9/11 were much too emotional. People got swept away by the wave of anger and fear. They were also too euphoristic after we caught Saddam (Bush's approval rating was 90% then, then it went back down to normal level within a month).
I suggest you go read up about, Binladen Group "Binladen Brothers Construction"
You are all wrong. It isn't the conservatives that need you to be afraid, it is the republican party. I am a conservative myself, but I am also a democrat, and I can tell you just because I have conservative values does not mean at ALL that I think everyone should fear Osama. That is just purely false. I mean come on, you guys should know better than this.
I am speaking about conservative politics.
Conservative politics are more republican politics, and a large portion of the republican party just happens to be conservative. There is nothing we can do to get around that. Fear-mongering is a result of the Bush administration pulling fear-tactics over us, not the conservative base of America. Conservatism is merely a belief that people in America share over certain values. I am even liberal when it comes to gay marriage.
I don't need anyone to be afraid...
And, I frankly don't give a damn. But here goes. Note first off, I'm recovering from influenza, so don't expect it to be flowery and my best work.
You aren't against the US government for not feeling hatred when you see bin Laden. However, I frankly dont see how you could not help it! This man alone is responsible for the deaths of 4,000 of your countrymen. When I see him, my trigger finger begins to twitch... San Francisco, indeed all of California, is intensly liberal. I am not surprised about your feelings given your location. However, you don't have to live in a "Red State" to harbour the aforementioned feelings. I live in *shudder* Chicago, a notoriously liberal and left leaning city. Yet every single person, save the two Islamist kids, would take the opportunity to avenge their countrymen if they saw UBL. Judging human life is something no one should do, but it must be done. If it is between one American upstanding citizen and one Iraqi fighter who will kill dozens, the Iraqi must be the "less heavy" of the two, if you catch my drift...
But overall, don't base your political views on what you were "taught". This just means that someone else is thinking for you. Read newspapers, listen to the radio, watch the news, browse through news magazines, then formulate your own opinion.