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Force Recon

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#1 12 years ago

A secular ChristianGod didn't promise Muslims the world I think today reality speaks for themselevs and show that Isalmic countries are backward countries compared to non-Islamic countries. Evidence of God's favour is in the progress and develoment of non-Islamic countries, either in miltary terms, sports, science, industry, human rights, political stability, technology, etc. Where is this God that you worship which you claim to be the One True God which I don't accept is the One True God? Is he sleeping? Or maybe simply not in control because your Allah is not God at all.

I am not a hypocrite I am a liberal Christian with secular democratic humanist political views. I leave religion as a private matter which should never interfere with affairs of the State and this is the wisdom of the founding fathers of the US and many leaders in the West which sees their Christian faith separate from the political view that they hold. The separation of Church and State is sacred in the West and Christians do not intend to change this unlike Muslims who cannot separate religion with politics.

this is a classic example of what I am facing every day,what we are facing since 9/11.Funny thing we never heard it BEFORE 9/11.anyways,this guy is making it look as if everyone in the western countries are all happy ,cheerful,rich and non-corrupt,we are all evil cavemen. Is it true then?

I am losing it people.I read some UN stats and it said Islamic countries have lowest crime rates.So please correct this if I am wrong since I believed in those stats.

I have yet to see or listen to a woman who claims to have been tortured by Islamic law.

People like this Christian make me angry and such things won't help you guys spreading "freedom" in the ME.One atheist was suggesting that holy cities of Muslims should be nuked if Saudi Arabia do not turn in to a democratic country ,so yeah I am really worried.:uhm:




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#2 12 years ago

Those are just ignorant hypocrits who think "I'm better then you". It's a shame really. That the west is economically and militairy stronger then "the muslim countries" (pretty shameless generalisation there!) these days doesn't mean god (allah) favours one country over the other, the muslim countries used to be quite powerfull (they still have a good amount of influence!) does the crusade to spread the islam into Europe via Spain ring any bells?

By now I'm close to not even wanting to reply to these ignorant and uninformed people anymore. It's getting tiresome. Not every country has to be a copy of the west (or more specific, the USA). It's not like the Middle East is one big dictatorship. :n0e:




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#3 12 years ago

You guys have public excutions over there? If you do than that is the reason why crime is so low.




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#4 12 years ago
Lord Abrarur I am losing it people.I read some UN stats and it said Islamic countries have lowest crime rates.So please correct this if I am wrong since I believed in those stats. I have yet to see or listen to a woman who claims to have been tortured by Islamic law.

How can a Islamic woman complain? Men can do what ever they want and women have to obey and do every thing the men tell them to do... So how can they complain? If they do they would die...




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#5 12 years ago
PethegreatYou guys have public excutions over there? If you do than that is the reason why crime is so low.[/quote] I doubt there are public executions ''over there'' (in all muslim countries), and I doubt it would have this much effect. You cannot say this is ''the'' reason for a low crime rate, especially since a vast majority of crimes are not punished by death. [QUOTE=Lord Abrarur] People like this Christian make me angry and such things won't help you guys spreading "freedom" in the ME.One atheist was suggesting that holy cities of Muslims should be nuked if Saudi Arabia do not turn in to a democratic country ,so yeah I am really worried.:uhm:

This is sad, really. I do not think the Middle East is so ''backward'' compared to us. We cannot force social changes on other countries, if these changes are are due to happen, then they will eventually happen once the people are ''ready'' to accept them (and these changes will most likely be different from those we experienced in the west during the last 2 centuries). Middle Eastern cultures are different from ours, and thus values are weighted differently, this is why they are not like us, and probably never will be. Some Muslim countries have made huge progress in technology and economy ever since they started to break away from Western and Turkish domination in the second half of the last century.

How can a Islamic woman complain? Men can do what ever they want and women have to obey and do every thing the men tell them to do... So how can they complain? If they do they would die...

In 1950, a woman had equal civil rights to a child in Quebec (yes, thats next door to America), in fact, it was also acknowledged that a women would not care if her husband commited adultery (she had no right to separate), but a man should immediately abandon her wife if he suspects she commited adultery (of course, without any financial compensation). It was also legal for a man to beat her wife, and she was forced by law to be obediant to her husband, and do anything he wants. This was in the law!

Now this was in a VERY christian region. In less than 10 years, things changed very dramatically and now women are equal to men in all aspects. Besides, it is not true that all muslim women are treated this bad.




Force Recon

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#6 12 years ago
How can a Islamic woman complain? Men can do what ever they want and women have to obey and do every thing the men tell them to do... So how can they complain? If they do they would die...

wrong.classic bullshit.or are you being sarcastic?

You guys have public excutions over there? If you do than that is the reason why crime is so low.

which seems to be quite effective,yep I agree.




GOD111

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#7 12 years ago

Well first of all. The muslim countries might have different kind of laws. You see, in this part of the world, it is forbidden to hit/murder/herass women, just for the fact that they are women. In your country it is seen as a right to kill the women by stoning her to death if she has been raped, which probably isn't a crime either in the muslim countries. The only thing with rape that is a crime, is the fact that the women have been acting like a whore in the muslim eyes. Public execuations would also been considerd as a crime in the western world. So by the rationale, since you have a much less crimerate, you don't have so many laws to punish people for. Except for the women, that can't even show their face with out facing trial and public humiliation, which I think most of them prefer to avoid.

Add: And to say you have LESS corruption in muslim countries is from your side irony I hope?




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#8 12 years ago

*SW3D3*Well first of all. The muslim countries might have different kind of laws. You see, in this part of the world, it is forbidden to hit/murder/herass women, just for the fact that they are women. In your country it is seen as a right to kill the women by stoning her to death if she has been raped, which probably isn't a crime either in the muslim countries. The only thing with rape that is a crime, is the fact that the women have been acting like a whore in the muslim eyes. Public execuations would also been considerd as a crime in the western world. So by the rationale, since you have a much less crimerate, you don't have so many laws to punish people for. Except for the women, that can't even show their face with out facing trial and public humiliation, which I think most of them prefer to avoid.[/QUOTE]

[quote=Sweden women abuse stats] In 1998, 20.447 cases of male violence against women were reported to the police. This figure represents 35% of all cases of physical abuse. Approximately 32-50 women are beaten to death every year and this figure has remained constant over the last fifteen years.

The number of abused and/or raped women increases every year. The number of reported cases has increased dramatically from 8.677 in 1981 to 20.447 cases in 1998. Rape statistics are similar: 885 cases in 1980 compared to 1.998 in 1998. This may also indicate a greater inclination to report violent crimes. Statistics show that most acts of violence against women are committed in their homes by a man whom they know.

1 out of 4 women in my country have been abused physically in some way. What the fuck does that tell you of the glorious western world? You need to stop reading the tabloids..




GOD111

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#9 12 years ago
'[+Glasius+']1 out of 4 women in my country have been abused physically in some way. What the fuck does that tell you of the glorious western world? You need to stop reading the tabloids..

No! You need to stop being fucking naive! I know we have problems in the western world, but atleast WE are aware of them, and TRYING to solve them, by making laws that forbid IE abuse/rape of women etc etc. In the muslims countries, there is NOTHING in their laws that says that its wrong to "show" women who's in charge. I say fuck that! They are acting like pigs against their women. It is the same with the immigrants, atleast in THIS country, they show NO respect for their wifes or women in general!!! YOU know this!!! If you don't you need to wake the fuck up from the blind spot your sleeping in.




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#10 12 years ago
*SW3D3*I know we have problems in the western world, but atleast WE are aware of them, and TRYING to solve them, by making laws that forbid IE abuse/rape of women etc etc. In the muslims countries, there is NOTHING in their laws that says that its wrong to "show" women who's in charge. I say fuck that! They are acting like pigs against their women. It is the same with the immigrants, atleast in THIS country, they show NO respect for their wifes or women in general!!! YOU know this!!! If you don't you need to wake the fuck up from the blind spot your sleeping in.

Since the 80's and passing of the first womens rights laws the stats have turned worse, and still are. Who gives a flying fuck about jurisdiction when the point is people getting killed or beaten up?