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Ipse

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#11 10 years ago
Never Surrender;4753513Well if some nation invaded and successfully occupied the baron wasteland that is Canada, you'd still wont the world to help you to be free!

I could take you seriously if you speak with a less-nationalistic tone and less grammer errors.

From what I could tell, it would depend on who is taking me over. If it was Turkey (as in this situation), then I could care less.




Crusader

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#12 10 years ago
Dr. Awesome;4753516I could take you seriously if you speak with a less-nationalistic tone and less grammer errors. From what I could tell, it would depend on who is taking me over. If it was Turkey (as in this situation), then I could care less.

You dont have to take me seriously or in any tone, i also fail to see the seriousness in the posts of yours on this thread.




Ipse

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#13 10 years ago
Never Surrender;4753521i also fail to see the seriousness in the posts of yours on this thread.

Thankfully I could careless if you think my posts are serious, because mine are on topic, answers you questions to the letter. While you just insult my nation , ask a question then pick my answer for me.




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#14 10 years ago
Never Surrender;4753513Well if some nation invaded and successfully occupied the baron wasteland that is Canada, you'd still wont the world to help you to be free!

The Baron wasteland that is Canada? Have you been here? Just because it doesn't have a large population doesn't make it baron.... It's impossible to take over a country with a single army now a days, maybe not for Korea or China, but the West can never do it, so we don't have to worry about much...




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#15 10 years ago
Schofield;4753889 It's impossible to take over a country with a single army now a days, maybe not for Korea or China, but the West can never do it, so we don't have to worry about much...

not entirely, if you follow the principles of siege then you are alright, 1. Be constantly supplied 2. have a large enough army to last you through the occupation 3. have alot of intelligence on defenses and weak spots. 4. have a constant flow of objectives to keep the momentum 5. control the air.

and your pretty much sorted




Mitch Connor

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#16 10 years ago
not entirely, if you follow the principles of siege then you are alright, 1. Be constantly supplied 2. have a large enough army to last you through the occupation 3. have alot of intelligence on defenses and weak spots. 4. have a constant flow of objectives to keep the momentum 5. control the air.

Or kill everything that breathes and suppress what's left over. But you can't do that because it's morally wrong and the world would hate you for it.




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#17 10 years ago

Cyprus needs to make its own mind up if you ask me. Each camp needs to have its population vote on the way forwards - do the people in the Turkish-controlled area want to remain Turkish, join with Cyprus proper, or something else entirely? Have a referendum, tot up the results, and then do whatever the people who actually live there actually want to do.

Of course politicians from either camp would actually listen to them, because that's not what politicians do. Doesn't matter if 100% of people in the Turkish-controlled area want to turn their country into a gargantuan theme park, complete with a viable business plan, it would never happen because the politicians have their own agendas. Ergo, the situation in Cyprus isn't going to be resolved for some time yet.

Dr. Awesome;4753524Thankfully I could careless if you think my posts are serious, because mine are on topic, answers you questions to the letter. While you just insult my nation , ask a question then pick my answer for me.

I think he's pointing out the irony in your post regarding Cyprus, i.e. "I don't see the worth in Cyprus". Just because you think it's insignificant, doesn't mean that its population does. There are almost a million people living in Cyprus, and it has a decent economy - a worthwhile country with worthwhile problems if you ask me.




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#18 10 years ago

What he meant is if Cyprus will be worth the shiatstorm that would develop if military action was taken by the world community for ANY reason. The situation in Cyprus is infinitely better then that of Iraq back in '03 but we all remember how THAT is going right? Any military going into Cyprus will have to deal with a world and national opinion poll constantly bemoaning the value of the exercise, limited strategic worth, end game etc.




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#19 10 years ago
Mr. Matt;4754345Cyprus needs to make its own mind up if you ask me. Each camp needs to have its population vote on the way forwards - do the people in the Turkish-controlled area want to remain Turkish, join with Cyprus proper, or something else entirely? Have a referendum, tot up the results, and then do whatever the people who actually live there actually want to do. Of course politicians from either camp would actually listen to them, because that's not what politicians do. Doesn't matter if 100% of people in the Turkish-controlled area want to turn their country into a gargantuan theme park, complete with a viable business plan, it would never happen because the politicians have their own agendas. Ergo, the situation in Cyprus isn't going to be resolved for some time yet. I think he's pointing out the irony in your post regarding Cyprus, i.e. "I don't see the worth in Cyprus". Just because you think it's insignificant, doesn't mean that its population does. There are almost a million people living in Cyprus, and it has a decent economy - a worthwhile country with worthwhile problems if you ask me.

Most of the property in the North was owned by greek cypriots, before they were ousted By the Turkish Army, The North of Turkey also has a influx of Mainland turks, constantly but slowely tipping the balance in Turkish favour. The seperate vote for the North and the South is seen as unfair, as the influx to make the North of cyprus Turk majority only arrose because of the illegal invasion of Cyprus, an action the Turkish government did, to "protect the Turk Cypriot for the coup forces who wanted to annex Cyprus to greece", the coup ultimatly failed, yet Turkey didnt and still doesnt withdraw To give the cypriot Turks the right to call the shots, keep real estate they stole of greek cypriots, simple because their big bad brother, mainland Turkey occupied the area they know claim is like giving somebody who takes hostages in a bodged bank robbery a helecopter to escape in. The republic Cypriot government back in the 1970s never agreed with the Greek nationalist coup, who vented their steam out on Turk cypriots sometimes, however the coup gave the Turks the excuse "our Turkish brothers and sisters are abused by greek cypriots" The fact the coup never dismantled the republic of cyprus and failed just shows Turkey to be a invader who took advantage of certain events to occupy. 35 years of occupation, thats roughly around the amount of time active main American forces involvement were in vietnam ( yes i know there were CIA before them, but no major expediationary forces like 1965-73), Soviet invasion of afghanistan, first gulf war, and the current engagments of US/UK forces in Iraq and Afghanistan combined!




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#20 10 years ago
Never Surrender;4754630Most of the property in the North was owned by greek cypriots, before they were ousted By the Turkish Army, The North of Turkey also has a influx of Mainland turks, constantly but slowely tipping the balance in Turkish favour. The seperate vote for the North and the South is seen as unfair, as the influx to make the North of cyprus Turk majority only arrose because of the illegal invasion of Cyprus, an action the Turkish government did, to "protect the Turk Cypriot for the coup forces who wanted to annex Cyprus to greece", the coup ultimatly failed, yet Turkey didnt and still doesnt withdraw To give the cypriot Turks the right to call the shots, keep real estate they stole of greek cypriots, simple because their big bad brother, mainland Turkey occupied the area they know claim is like giving somebody who takes hostages in a bodged bank robbery a helecopter to escape in. The republic Cypriot government back in the 1970s never agreed with the Greek nationalist coup, who vented their steam out on Turk cypriots sometimes, however the coup gave the Turks the excuse "our Turkish brothers and sisters are abused by greek cypriots" The fact the coup never dismantled the republic of cyprus and failed just shows Turkey to be a invader who took advantage of certain events to occupy. 35 years of occupation, thats roughly around the amount of time active main American forces involvement were in vietnam ( yes i know there were CIA before them, but no major expediationary forces like 1965-73), Soviet invasion of afghanistan, first gulf war, and the current engagments of US/UK forces in Iraq and Afghanistan combined!

It's really too late to do anything about the past, lest we create another Israelesque situation. We need to think about the present occupants, as they are the ones who will be living with any decision made.