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#1 2 months ago

So one of the commitments of the speaker of the house of commons, John Bercow, when he was elected as speaker in 2009 was the champion the rights of back benchers. For those not sure, Back Benchers are non governmental MP's who sit, as the name implies, on the back benches behind the government or shadow cabinate. 

Traditionally they get very little say on the business of the house, but Bercow, in an effort to try and bring more power to the back benches, created something called the 'Back Bench Business Comittee'

It was this backbench comittee that raised the debate over withdrawal from the EU and force David Cameron's hand into holding a referendum.

Too much power in the wrong place?


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#2 2 months ago

David Cameron had a choice, and he could have not acted at all. If a Prime Minister can be forced into something, Cameron had no place being Prime Minister.


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#3 1 month ago

You can't lay the blame for Brexit at the feet of any one person, unfortunately. 

Should pig-fucking Cameron have called for a referendum? Nah mate. He was playing a political game designed to squash UKIP, which had been getting uppity, and to get his Euroskeptic backbenchers to finally shut the fuck up. That referendum wasn't intended to gauge the will of the people - he, like everybody else, thought that it'd be a dead-cert for remain. He played a political game with the future of this country, he lost, and now we're all paying for it. He was wrong to do that, just as he was wrong to shove his shrivelled little cheesestick into a dead pig's face like the disgusting sex pest he is.

Brexit isn't his fault, though. As demonstrated by the rise of UKIP themselves and the BNP before them, these were tensions that had been boiling for years. Calls for a referendum were growing louder each year. UKIP kept surprising analysts with ever-increasing shares of the vote that were completely useless shares thanks to the way first-past-the-post works. Large chunks of his own party were badgering him for a referendum. Had the Pig Fucker General not held one, someone else would.

Was John Bercow wrong to give power to the shitty little backbenchers? Probably. There's a reason they're on the back bench, and I've met my MP. She's a fucking idiot. 

The Back Bench Business Committee didn't start the debate over pulling out of the EU, though. It had been boiling for years earlier than that. And nobody gave a shit what they thought anyway.

Who's to blame, then?

Westminster. 

Like, all of it.

The racists who always wanted Brexit because they were always going to want Brexit because "ewwww foreigners" didn't tip us over the edge in the referendum. They're loud but they don't exist in sufficient numbers to outvote the entire country, or at least I'd hope they don't. Millions of ordinary morons voted 'leave'. And Westminster essentially convinced them to do so.

Who suffered the most during the Great Recession? We, the people.

Who'd been suffering through years of unnecessary austerity and made poorer for it when the referendum was held? We, the people.

Who's felt unheard, ignored, and misunderstood by the political elite for decades now? We, the people.

Those fuckers at Westminster have brought this on themselves. Present a bunch of depressed, largely-ignorant people who are poorer now than they've ever been with a choice between the status quo and an uncertain future, and they'll choose an uncertain future every time - because how much fucking worse could it get, right? If the people in charge don't want you to do it, all the better!

When the political elite fails to look after or listen to the people they're supposedly representing (that MP a couple of years back who reckoned people could absolutely afford to survive on 5p a year or something really hammered this one home for me), and those people then get an opportunity to deliver a big, fat "fuck you" in the form of a contrarian referendum vote, guess what they're going to do?

After years of unnecessary austerity, that some reports have linked to upwards of 124,000 preventable deaths, and record growth levels of income inequality unseen since the Victorian era, guess who's not going to listen to the rich experts say that they might lose a lot of money if we left the EU? Bonus points if the popular media still passing for 'journalism' now had been telling everybody for years that it'd solve all our problems.

Brexit is wrong, stupid, and it's going to harm the very people who voted for it most of all. But it's Westminster's own fault. Not John Bercow, not the backbenchers, not UKIP, not David Cameron. It's all of the fuckers. 

I wouldn't mind, but they don't seem to have learnt their lesson, either.




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#4 1 month ago
Posted by Mr. Matt

The racists who always wanted Brexit because they were always going to want Brexit because "ewwww foreigners" didn't tip us over the edge in the referendum. They're loud but they don't exist in sufficient numbers to outvote the entire country, or at least I'd hope they don't. Millions of ordinary morons voted 'leave'. And Westminster essentially convinced them to do so.


The other significant factor is the disturbingly large amount of people who didn't bother to vote, or outright refused to vote. According to this graph, roughly 19% of Millennials didn't vote, and 17% of Generation X didn't vote. In other words, they simply sat on the sidelines. They say things like "Voting doesn't matter, because the Tories are going to win anyway." Well, yes, the Tories are going to win, but that is only BECAUSE you are not voting.


According to this page, the total population is comprised of roughly 82% Millennials and Generation X, while Boomers only comprise 18.0%. At that amount, 36% not voting is a more than enough to allow Boomers to continue their racist ramblings, which is why brexit is still ongoing today. Being outnumbered by roughly 5 to 1, there is absolutely no reason why Boomers should be winning. If all 100% of British citizens had voted, Brexit would have been shot down before anyone outside the Disunited Queendom ever even heard of Brexit.


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#5 1 month ago

I think the problem there was this idea that Brexit supporters were such a minority that they couldn't possibly win, so a lot of people sat back and thought that they didn't need to vote. Certainly that's how I remember the media treating the idea. Why anybody ever listens to them is beyond me, though.




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#6 4 weeks ago

The argument for Brexit that I love most is "We don't want to be ruled by governments we didn't elect."


Well, what do you think Theresa May is? What do you think the House Of Lords is? What do you think Queeny is? Like it or not, you live under a government you didn't elect.


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