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Komrad_B

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#21 13 years ago
WarHawk109;3404078so what? just because you think something is so doesn't make it so.

Do you know a lot of Quebecers? No, obviously, because here what he said is what a lot of people think.




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#22 13 years ago

Komrad_B;3404072I support Guineapig's opinion. The Canadians voted Conservative because they were angry, not because they wanted them. Basically, its the whole point of the conservative party in Canada, to rule 3 or 4 years before Liberals get new ideas and take over yet again. I think its going to happen again, simply because the Liberal party's ideas are closer to what Canada is, and not of the U.S. republigon party.[/QUOTE] I see, so you are of the belief that Canada can never change?

I've got news for you, the power base is shifting to the west wether you like it or not. :D

[QUOTE=Komrad_B;3404082]Do you know a lot of Quebecers? No, obviously, because here what he said is what a lot of people think.

Which is dumb because now that Dion has been elected, the CPC is now the only federalist option in Quebec. gg no re :D




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#23 13 years ago
Which is dumb because now that Dion has been elected, the CPC is now the only federalist option in Quebec. gg no re :D

I might be dreaming, but I hope Quebecers will actually vote for their values (which definitively are NOT conservative) this time. As said before, Quebecers only voted for the Conservatives because they were pissed off at the Liberals. Now, I don't know a lot of Quebecers who are still supporting Harper now, altho the "Nation within Canada" gives him a +1, it was a Liberal idea, so +1 to the Libs too :)

I see, so you are of the belief that Canada can never change?

Of course not, but the Liberal party changed Canada a lot more than the Conservatives ever did. As I said, Conservatives are only there to beat the Liberals once in a while so THEY get new ideas :)




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#24 13 years ago
Komrad_B;3404117I might be dreaming, but I hope Quebecers will actually vote for their values (which definitively are NOT conservative) this time. As said before, Quebecers only voted for the Conservatives because they were pissed off at the Liberals. Now, I don't know a lot of Quebecers who are still supporting Harper now, altho the "Nation within Canada" gives him a +1, it was a Liberal idea, so +1 to the Libs too :)

And now they will vote Conservative because they are pissed at Dion! I don't see any problem! :D

Reasons why are unimportant, what counts is that they vote Conservative!

Of course not, but the Liberal party changed Canada a lot more than the Conservatives ever did. As I said, Conservatives are only there to beat the Liberals once in a while so THEY get new ideas :)

New ideas? Just what new ideas could they come up with? More gov't? More taxes? Same old, same old!




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#25 13 years ago

What is the option the tories give us? More gov't? More taxes and a stronger army? Wow... Same old, same old!

Let's not forget the inherent restrictions due to pseudomorality the tories would find a way to put on us. wooties... 2500th post




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#26 13 years ago

WarHawk109;3403745Hahahaha! I wouldn't celebrate so soon! Dion is completely unelectable. He's french, he can barely speak english, he is totally uncharismatic, plus he has a terrible record as a cabinet minister (clarity act anyone?). He will neither sell in Quebec or Ontario, and he'll do worse in the west. I can't see him making any gains for the Liberals anywhere.

Thanks libs for giving us a majority! :D

Can anyone say Jean Chretien? Nobody could understand what he was saying and he had majority governments for 10 years. And from what I've seen from Dion, he has plenty of charisma. It's funny how you accuse him of having none while you seem to support Harper, the man who shook his son's hand after dropping him off to school.




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#27 13 years ago

Nostradamouse;3404310What is the option the tories give us? More gov't? More taxes and a stronger army? Wow... Same old, same old![/quote] The tories have cut taxes though and plan to cut even more. They also cut numerous spending programs! *coughstatusofwomencough*

That's more than the libs would have done!

Let's not forget the inherent restrictions due to pseudomorality the tories would find a way to put on us.

For example?

[QUOTE=Master of Reality;3404343]Can anyone say Jean Chretien? Nobody could understand what he was saying and he had majority governments for 10 years.

Chretien had the benefit of a split right wing vote. He would have never have gotten as far if the right was united as it now is.

And from what I've seen from Dion, he has plenty of charisma. It's funny how you accuse him of having none while you seem to support Harper, the man who shook his son's hand after dropping him off to school.

:lol:

Of course you do realize that children are embarrassed by their parents and hate being hugged in front of their friends, right?




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#28 13 years ago
WarHawk109;3404422The tories have cut taxes though and plan to cut even more. They also cut numerous spending programs! *coughstatusofwomencough* That's more than the libs would have done!

They raised the millitary budget by how much? Yet again: Blanc Bonnet ou bonnet blanc, ça reste la même chose! You fail to show me change.

For example?

Just looking at how constipated the leadership is, I can already see them going against anything they consider too liberal and cracking down on acquired rights.




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#29 13 years ago
Nostradamouse;3404603They raised the millitary budget by how much? Yet again: Blanc Bonnet ou bonnet blanc, ça reste la même chose! You fail to show me change.

What is wrong with raising the military budget? We are in a war. I don't see a problem when this is coupled with spending cuts in other areas.

Just looking at how constipated the leadership is, I can already see them going against anything they consider too liberal and cracking down on acquired rights.

This does not answer my question. Just what rights are they going to "crack down on"?




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#30 13 years ago
WarHawk109;3404614What is wrong with raising the military budget? We are in a war. I don't see a problem when this is coupled with spending cuts in other areas.

:rolleyes: To the lattest news, I sort of consider the army as being the arm of the government, and it seems this arm is growing stronger and bigger lately.

This does not answer my question. Just what rights are they going to "crack down on"?

Well, let's just say that our right to privacy and other rights might take a blow sooner or later. (not that the libs haven't helped for that as well)