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masked_marsoe Advanced Member

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#1 15 years ago

How direct should democracy be?

We now have the technology to give every person an equal share in making the desicions of state. We could change the way we participate in our nations by having a giant forum, where the results became laws.

At the moment, I don't believe that there is enough political awareness to make this work properly, but that's aonther thing to work on.

There is one chief problem that I see with direct democracy too. The minorites (ethical & ethnic) won't have the power of a representative system. Is there a way that this can be worked out?

-- I should also post my background for this. I'm a member of the Green Party of Ao/NZ. More than that, I'm the interim Young Greens Coordinator for Aoraki (roughly 10% of the country). This position will be a co-position, like all others in the party, at the elections next month, until then, I'm just holding the spot. As a Green, I believe that everyone should have participation in Government, and everyone should be much more aware of what they are a part of.




WarHawk109

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#2 15 years ago

"a democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson

While I am in favour of more referendums for select issues, no piece of legislation should be allowed to infringe on unalienable rights.




masked_marsoe Advanced Member

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#3 15 years ago

But who defines what is an "unalienable right"?




WarHawk109

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#4 15 years ago

me of course




Relander

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#5 15 years ago

Direct democracy can't work properly, not even when technology could make it possible. Vast majority of the people don't have the needed time and especially, information & understanding to make hard decisions about various complicated issues every day. Agitators and political experts/intellectuals (like Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Mao Ze Dong etc.) would have a lot of power to influence ignorant & over-emotional masses to vote for their favour. The electronic voting system would be a very vulnerable for hackers and frauds to alter results.

What we need more is people's own activity to take part in politics and get versatile information from various sources to make responsible decisions instead of around-the-clock, useless whining how the politicians don't do anything but lie & steal money and just raise paychecks when in reality, this clearly isn't the case. Individual, knowledgeable voter is the corner stone of representative democracy which is the best (from the worst) system out there, at least if you ask me.




Revenge Advanced Member

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#6 15 years ago

Yep, people elect politicians to do the thinking for them. They vote for them as they trust their ability to make the decisions which will be useful to the voter more than the other candidates. If every person was able to vote on every bill passing Parliament, there would be votes cast without major thought - people just voting for those who look the nicest, as they don't have the time or effort to think about the right opinion.

In theory, it's a perfect form of government, but in practise it just wouldn't work effectively. Representational rule seems to be the best scenario at this point in time.




Aeroflot

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#7 15 years ago

I'm a big fan of direct democracy. I think it should be used in all small areas for voting, because fraudulent voting really isn't possible, or, atleast it is tuned down. Switzerland uses direct democracy upto a certain point, then the representative democracy takes charge at the cantonal level. The system may take longer and cost more, but I think people will feel liek they have more power, and their vote really counts.




Karst

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#8 15 years ago

People should definetly be more aware of politics. It's sad how many people simply do not care.




Admiral Donutz Advanced Member

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#9 15 years ago

RelanderDirect democracy can't work properly, not even when technology could make it possible. Vast majority of the people don't have the needed time and especially, information & understanding to make hard decisions about various complicated issues every day. Agitators and political experts/intellectuals (like Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Mao Ze Dong etc.) would have a lot of power to influence ignorant & over-emotional masses to vote for their favour. The electronic voting system would be a very vulnerable for hackers and frauds to alter results.

What we need more is people's own activity to take part in politics and get versatile information from various sources to make responsible decisions instead of around-the-clock, useless whining how the politicians don't do anything but lie & steal money and just raise paychecks when in reality, this clearly isn't the case. Individual, knowledgeable voter is the corner stone of representative democracy which is the best (from the worst) system out there, at least if you ask me.

Very true, hence why it is better to have policians and goverment staff deal with most isseus. They have the experience, knowlegde and time or atleast are more likely to do so then an avarage Joe on the street. Ofcourse having representives also has it's flaws but in the end it's better. Besides representatives can pretty easily be removed if they fail badly at their job and get the public against them.




Nostradamouse

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#10 15 years ago

Direct democracy could work and I would be in favor of that. But it could only work on a very small scale, for example: a city of less than a 100 k inhabitants.