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NiteStryker

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#1 9 years ago

So I gotta ask about this...

50 years ago, as far as I know, "disorders" like add/adhd did not exist.

Why do they now?

Is it a result of drugs our parents did in their lifetimes?

Is our medical technology better so we can find such "disorders"?

Does you believe its even a real condition? Drugging a 7 year old because he doesnt want to sit in a classroom and wants to go run around outside instead of do math problems? Sounds like a kid wanting to be a kid, not a medical condition that requires some pills.

What say you?




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#2 9 years ago

Careful - what was not defined did exist just wasn't labeled. Just as asthma. It existed before, just people didn't see it as something specific. So one can safely say that these things were only defined recently. Also keep in mind, that that schooling these days tends to be more extensive than before and as such these issues are more noticeable.

Is it sometimes taken out pf proportion? In a lot of cases definitely. But I guess it depends on where you live. I've never heard of any drugging going on here.




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#3 9 years ago

NiteStryker;4934541So I gotta ask about this...

50 years ago, as far as I know, "disorders" like add/adhd did not exist.

Why do they now?[/QUOTE]

I'm no fancy expect on this but I think they did exist back 50 years ago, but had no idea what ADD and ADHD was so the most likely label the kid a Retard. That and the medical tech wasn't quite advance as it now to make kick ass diagnoses.

[QUOTE=NiteStryker;4934541] Does you believe its even a real condition? Drugging a 7 year old because he doesnt want to sit in a classroom and wants to go run around outside instead of do math problems? Sounds like a kid wanting to be a kid, not a medical condition that requires some pills.

What say you?

You see in this day and age we love to solve everything with a pill and hope and pray it'll make it all better, hehe well it doesn't does it?

A Kid wants to run around and jump and shit let'em!! There kids we don't need to dope them up to make them docile. , pills are fine and dany if the kid and Schizo...


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#4 9 years ago

Actually, ADHD has been known for a long time, it just hasn't been given the same name, it was named ADHD in 1987, but Alexander Chrichton in 1798 described it as 'mental restlessness.' Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As for why it's only come up properly in the past 50 years or so, well it's simple, they've only been able to diagnose what causes it and what it is properly in that time frame.

Now I agree with Junk Angel, it is sometimes blown out of proportion, and I don't believe every 'case' should be given drugs, maybe only the very 'severe.'




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#5 9 years ago

Bad parenting.

Rather, an excuse for kids being kids. 40 years ago a boy that would rather be outside playing during class was though of as normal. Nowadays, a that same kid would be medicated and babied like someone with an honest mental handicap.




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#6 9 years ago

I'm ashamed to say it, but as somebody who was diagnosed with ADHD and Tourette's syndrome It really fucking busts my balls when I hear people dismiss both as bad parenting or bad behaviour.

The shit I had to deal with, the hours of horrid tics - the headaches and backaches from bobbing my head up and down for thirteen hours straight, the plates I broke because I suddenly shook my hand, the hours I spent in my bed when I was very little because my shaking kept me up... And my dear mom sitting by my bedside throughout all this, calming me, calling doctors and reading books so that she can only help me - while refusing to settle for psychotropic medication.

You try to tell me the conditions don't exist? You're trying to convince me my mom is a bad parent, when she spent more time trying to find a way to help me than many parents care to spend with their child?

You spend your childhood kept up at night by constant twitching and an indescribable restlessness in your spine, you try to deal with each 45 minute class being constantly interrupted by a falling pencil or a tweeting bird. You go ahead and try to act "normal" when every ten seconds a a strange vocal tic comes out of your mouth.

You deal with all the shit I went through, and then you tell me the condition doesn't exist. Either that, or go ahead and spend the rest of your life comfortably ignorant of these difficulties, enjoy being able to fall asleep in less than two hours, appreciate your ability to focus on whatever you wish and be glad that you don't constantly make a "boop" sound in social settings. But please, don't add insult to injury and dismiss it all as "bullshit".




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#7 9 years ago

They do exist. I suffered from what is now known as ADHD inattentive type (a.k.a ADD). According to my mom, before I was diagnosed at age 5, people thought I was retarded.

And if you say I'm wrong or that the diagnosis was given as an excuse, note that I noticed a major difference off of my well-known methamphetamine Ritalin (Methyphenidate). Also, my academic record reflects my attention span on and off ADD meds.

I still suffer from a bad attention span, but it may be due to a different reason and I can no longer take anything for my concentration directly.




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#8 9 years ago

Metall_pingwin;4934638I'm ashamed to say it, but as somebody who was diagnosed with ADHD and Tourette's syndrome It really fucking busts my balls when I hear people dismiss both as bad parenting or bad behaviour.

The shit I had to deal with, the hours of horrid tics - the headaches and backaches from bobbing my head up and down for thirteen hours straight, the plates I broke because I suddenly shook my hand, the hours I spent in my bed when I was very little because my shaking kept me up... And my dear mom sitting by my bedside throughout all this, calming me, calling doctors and reading books so that she can only help me - while refusing to settle for psychotropic medication.

You try to tell me the conditions don't exist? You're trying to convince me my mom is a bad parent, when she spent more time trying to find a way to help me than many parents care to spend with their child?

You spend your childhood kept up at night by constant twitching and an indescribable restlessness in your spine, you try to deal with each 45 minute class being constantly interrupted by a falling pencil or a tweeting bird. You go ahead and try to act "normal" when every ten seconds a a strange vocal tic comes out of your mouth.

You deal with all the shit I went through, and then you tell me the condition doesn't exist. Either that, or go ahead and spend the rest of your life comfortably ignorant of these difficulties, enjoy being able to fall asleep in less than two hours, appreciate your ability to focus on whatever you wish and be glad that you don't constantly make a "boop" sound in social settings. But please, don't add insult to injury and dismiss it all as "bullshit".

Hey guess what. I've got you beat. I've got ADHD, Tourettes, and OCD. :lol:

Anyway, unless its an extreme case (like above), its generally blown out of proportion. My cases as I mentioned above are relatively mild, but they still try to drug me up. It really isnt necessary.

They do exist and always have, but people panic about it. And then you have all the kids who think its cool to have that stuff and claim to have been diagnosed with ADD. You know they havent. Thats what really bothers me. I just cant comprehend why think its cool to have to put up with these afflictions.




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#9 9 years ago

ADD and ADHD are not something I would consider as a disorder, but more or less a symptom of the prescription age, where it's easier and much less costly to be exact, to slap a name on and medicate a person then it is to treat them through therapy, where most psychiatrists are more willing to whip out the perscription pad and write out some anti-depressants then to sit down with a depressed person, or in this case people being called add and adhd.

Eating disorders fall perfectly into this catagory, where it's easier to make people believe they have a disorder than it is to called them a glutten and that they are going to eat themselves to death.




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#10 9 years ago

There are several things which cause ADD or ADHD:

*Forcing kids to sit in class all day *Technological overload (constant exposure to television, cellphones, video games, computers, etc...) *The fact that kids will be kids and act silly at times. Since they won't lose their souls until adulthood, let the little fuckers have some fun, eh? *Over scheduling (little timmy has violin lessons, hockey practice, and bible study every day)

I honestly think it is a modern phenomena. A byproduct of technology and the schooling system. It may have all started at the birth of the industrial revolution...