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Psychokenesis

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#191 12 years ago
Sa Anupuw;4068951yeah that was random....sounds like something I'd so...Why do people use drugs, for fun not "think I'll never be a junkie!" "Hey this crack is great I want some more!" or "Hey look at me with the joint in my mouth I'm one illin' cracka..." People use drugs beacuse they wanna be cool.

and the same was true with smoking. It was perceived as cool and sophisticated...That would be the second substance to be abused and offered to the public. I find it reckless to suggest the introduction of the other when we're trying to eliminate one and subdue the others. A health risk is a health risk. The debate is academic. Why would introduce another societal chemical that kills.




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#192 12 years ago
Sa Anupuw;4068951People use drugs beacuse they wanna be cool.

Not really, some of us use drugs because we want to get high.

and the same was true with smoking. It was perceived as cool and sophisticated...

Smoking can also help to relieve stress, and it is addictive.




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#193 12 years ago
elevatormusic;4068979Not really, some of us use drugs because we want to get high.

Some people use drugs to understand there mind better...




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#194 12 years ago

elevatormusic;4068979Not really, some of us use drugs because we want to get high.

Smoking can also help to relieve stress, and it is addictive.

I think a 45 to the head could relieve stress too. But that's obviously not the point. The point is public hazard. Marijuana would make that classification as well as alcohol. The question is why introduce another?




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#195 12 years ago

No, a .45 to the head will fucking kill you. Smoking and booze will too, they just take longer.

I hate to bring up an unrelated issue, but out of curiosity, if the point is public hazard, then what's your opinion on gun control?

And, as I posted on the first page, I support the legalization and regulation of marijuana. I also support using the money generated in this manner to fund education and health care. If you actually educate people about drugs and their uses, as opposed to bombarding them with propaganda (as is the current standard in North America), then I think you'll find a reduction in problems associated with drugs.

Drug use in and of itself is not, necessarily, bad. It depends on the drug and the user.

Using a zero-tolerance policy and sweeping restrictions provides the illusion of a solution without actually addressing the problem.

Also, Saq I would be interested in your opinion on some of the original reasons behind marijuana prohibition, they can be found on the first page of this thread, along with a variety of sources...




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#196 12 years ago

elevatormusic;4069025I hate to bring up an unrelated issue, but out of curiosity, if the point is public hazard, then what's your opinion on gun control?[/quote]I'd like to add to that and note that all guns, especially the ones in military's hands, are a public hazard. So are nuclear warheads, tanks, fighter jets and missiles of all sorts.

Those things pose more of a threat to me and my liberty than the average weed smoker. After all, if everyone was high, there would be no one to fight wars and kill others on command. :lol:

elevatormusic;4069025And, as I posted on the first page, I support the legalization and regulation of marijuana. I also support using the money generated in this manner to fund education and health care. If you actually educate people about drugs and their uses, as opposed to bombarding them with propaganda (as is the current standard in North America), then I think you'll find a reduction in problems associated with drugs.[/quote]Exactly. It's not that there's too few money, but too much money spent for useless campaigns or other unnecessary stuff. Though to see a reduction in drug use, one also has to address the problems that lead to it. [quote=elevatormusic;4069025]Drug use in and of itself is not, necessarily, bad. It depends on the drug and the user.
Agreed. [quote=elevatormusic;4069025]Using a zero-tolerance policy and sweeping restrictions provides the illusion of a solution without actually addressing the problem.

Agreed.




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#197 12 years ago

Saquist;4068849The sources seem to say mostly the same. It's unnecessary use of mind altering drug. Why do you need it?[/quote]

No. Not all sources say the same thing. Not all drugs are mind altering. I don't need it, but i may enjoy it every now and then. Do you need sex? No, but it something that you may enjoy every now and then. Do you need sport? No. Same applies.

[quote=Saquist;4068849]NONE...and it will remain that way indefinitely. I do not require drugs to derive enjoyment from life. I also do not need to remove myself from reality in such a way.

Then you shouldn't tell others how to live their lives.




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#198 12 years ago

I didn't say all sources say the same thing.

If you require experience in doing wrong to know what is wrong...you're excerising foolishness or a risk taker The day you can learn a lesson by example is the day you've discovered wisdom.




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#199 12 years ago
Videoslave;4068983Some people use drugs to understand there mind better...

intersting care to explain?


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#200 12 years ago
Sa Anupuw;4069666intersting care to explain?

Most common drugs will not help people better understand their mind. However, psychedelic drugs such as LSD, Magic Mushrooms, Peyote (mescalin) have long histories of spiritual use. These substances, to those that have never experienced them, is not fully describeable. It reacts on an unexplored part of the mind. Most people think they create hallucinations and that's it, but in reality the strongest effects are how the person perceives things, not the hallucinations themselves.

If you wish to understand more of how people can learn more of their mind through use of psychedelic drugs, read some trip reports which can be found here: Erowid Experience Vaults: LSD (also Acid, Doses) Main Index

Drugs such as methamphetamine, heroin other stimulants and depressants cannot give people a direct idea of how the mind works. However, they can give an idea of how the central nervous system works.