http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY So why havent these things been downsized for homes ? Why is it so hard to convince people that humans can have almost free power ? With no pollution from coal at all. Poll. Is free energy a myth.
jackripped;5213442http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY So why havent these things been downsized for homes ? Why is it so hard to convince people that humans can have almost free power ? With no pollution from coal at all. Poll. Is free energy a myth.
That particular machine is bullshit. The guy didn't really explain how they claim the thing works, but he did say that "once the drive shaft thing is span up to full speed, it can be disconneted and will carry on by itself". But if it isn't being driven by anything, it will very quickly lose energy and stop. Also, he mentioned a "previously undiscovered form of energy in magnetic fields" - more rubbish.
Trying to generate free energy is futile. If your machine tries to produce more energy than it consumes then it violates the law of conservation of energy. If it tries to spontaneously move heat from a cold place to a hot one (and generate useful work that way), it will violate the second law of thermodynamics.
Do you have any particular reason to think that free energy is not a "myth"?
Solar power. Perpetual power plant invented in QLD australia a few years ago, that was posted on this forum before. That had known scientists backing it. Tesla coils and the evidence of not only teslas work, but the US air force as well. There is energy all around us that we can actually tap into and use, maybe not for heavy industry but for home, yes. Totally free anything is pretty much impossible, what l mean is, like solar, once put up, the costs are almost zero, and the enviroment gains are huge. There is no reason we cant do this today, yesterday last decade. Even nuclea power is better than coal burning for the enviroment and its cheaper to produce. The whole idea of re-cycling carbon is a joke, at the end of the day, we as a species are still putting huge amounts more into the air, stupid carbon trading scheme. That machine may not be scientificly proven, the one l linked, but you can buy solar pannels, inverters, batteries. After the initial cost it is free power. The only reason it dearer is because you dont pay upfront for the power lines from the coal station to be layed to your house. If you did, solar would be 10 times cheaper than coal power. Why havent you gone solar ? Because like millions of others you dont realise the coal power system your on costs you far more than a solar system over 40 years of your life, and most of us live to be over 40..... Had you had to pay for the power lines up front, well its 1000$ just for a pole if its above ground, plus cable, plus labour etc etc etc. Up front , for exsample here a farmer need 5 pole on his land to get power to his house, 16000$ later, try and convince me solar wasnt better there and then.Plus he has to pay them every 3 months with a power bill ! Another 300$ a metre in cable ! No, i recon, solar is cheaper, maybe laws are needed to force people to pay for there lines upfront, rather than let the big companies offset them costs just to get them on there grid. Maybe if it was a level playing field here solar would smash coal industries.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
jackripped;5213876Why havent you gone solar ? Because like millions of others you dont realise the coal power system your on costs you far more than a solar system over 40 years of your life, and most of us live to be over 40.....
Because it's rarely that sunny here, I don't plan to live here for forty years, (I'll be annoyed if I have to be here another two,) because the initial investment is quite high and because there's no-one I know who I'd trust to screw around with the wiring here in order to install the thing.
Nemmerle;5213901Because it's rarely that sunny here, I don't plan to live here for forty years, (I'll be annoyed if I have to be here another two,) because the initial investment is quite high and because there's no-one I know who I'd trust to screw around with the wiring here in order to install the thing.
Yeah, pretty much that...we have great electricians and plenty of sun in Colorado, but it's the initial investment - several thousand dollars, and oh yes...there is a monthly maintenance fee to keep it all running smoothly. The technology is here, just the average joe can't afford it and if you live in an HOA forget it...they are like their own little banana republics when it comes to getting anything 'different' done on your home.
Boulder County has wind machines...but from what I understand it is costing more to operate than what they get in return.
I say go nuclear. My power bill is usually around $100 a month, when I was on the nuclear grid in Northern California a few years ago, I payed around $30 a month. Misinformation and misdirection by the eco-warriors fueled by political bias, has made it difficult to get this technology going again in the US...so we pollute our cities with coal fires instead.:rolleyes:
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
I haven't heard about a monthly fee before but still.
I think what people need to do if they want to promote solar energy is come up with a package. You sell all the bits together, you handle the installation, and you sit down and do the maths - come up with a figure you can give people, a nice tag-line, 'Will provide this much energy for however many dollars. Here's how it compares to the alternative over however many years.' It might be worth tying in insulation since that cuts down massively on wasted energy; I spend a good £2 a night sometimes just getting one room up to a decent temperature for a while, old places leak heat like no-one's business.
Right now you stick solar home into google, see what you get - a bunch of sites that look like they've been constructed by a five year old with a make your own website program and very little information unless you intend to go wandering off to other sites. It's a mess; hardly inspiring of trust.
The wife and I looked into solar last year...putting the expense aside, its the room needed, and placing the units on top of your house isn't recommended, cause it can be difficult and costly to maintain them. If you live in a semi-arid environment (like I do) dust is a big issue hindering the performance of your panels. I may still get them installed at a later date, but to get the size I want to power a 2600 sq. ft. home plus my garage and out buildings put us about $4000. Now there is another company I was looking into that doesn't seem too bad. You lease the panels for 15 years, but you still have a set monthly fee as their package includes maintenance and the lease of the equipment.
So...erm...how is solar power relevant to the (in)viability of the power source mentioned in OP?
Mr. Pedantic;5213940So...erm...how is solar power relevant to the (in)viability of the power source mentioned in OP?
I don't know. I can't understand half his posts anyways.
You dont lease no panels in Australia. You own them outright, no ongoing fees what so ever. Leasing solar makes no sence with the initial costs.Thats truely bezarre. No-one would do it ! Maybe thats how your govenment has set it up and wants it ? Surely you can buy a full solar set up in the US and own it outright, no fees ? Pretty insane if you cant. Almost all solar panels are fitted to our roof tops here in OZ, most of our homes are single story for a start, making them easy to clean, which is pretty much all there maintenance is anyways. And l dunno how you worked out the figure or on what wattage the panels were based or anything, but you can get 12 panels that will run your home all day, air con included, runs with big inverters, for night that system switches back onto the grid, but theres plenty of room on the roof for more panels, and battery storage isnt that expencive no days either. The size of the home roof isnt usually an issue unless its a 2 or 3 story house, where 3 levels of house run of the same sq area of panels on the roof.