Evolution is faith, not science 65 replies

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ultimateworf

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#1 14 years ago

okay, im not for christianity or any other religion being taught in public schools becuase it is faith, but im sick and tired of them passing off evolution as science when it has no scientific backing. it is based on faith that something happened a long time ago. they say that about 18-20 billion years ago all the matter in the universe was squised into a tiny dot, and that this dot then exploded and expanded to form the planets and the suns and galaxys. now show me whats scientific about that? where did the matter come from? thats faith not science. where did the energy to expand it come from? thats faith not science. why are some of the bodies in the universe spinning in opposite directions when they all should be spinning in the same direction? you cant explain that with science, therefore you rely on faith. you assume that given time, the universe will evolve and get better, which is what the whole theory of evolution is based on. yet the universe has laws, and one of them is that given time, things will degrade, not evolve. this is shown by every aspect of our lives. everything in the world needs constant maintenance, or eventually it will break or fail. evolution is faith, not science




Ekips

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#2 14 years ago

most schools teach darwinism which is science.




FireSphere

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#3 14 years ago

You don't have to believe in the Big Bang in order to believe in Evolution. God could have, for instance, created the Earth and then created a single life form which evolved over time into the many that existed today. Earth is, after all, a planet of a second-generation star system (a previous star had exploded into a supernova, the gases of which formed the sun).




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#4 14 years ago

ultimateworfthey say that about 18-20 billion years ago all the matter in the universe was squised into a tiny dot, and that this dot then exploded and expanded to form the planets and the suns and galaxys. now show me whats scientific about that? where did the matter come from? thats faith not science. where did the energy to expand it come from? [...][/QUOTE]

That's astronomy, not evolution. Evolution uses (living) organisms

[QUOTE=ultimateworf]you assume that given time, the universe will evolve and get better, which is what the whole theory of evolution is based on.

Evolution never said that things would get 'better'.




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#5 14 years ago

That is evolution of our universe, and how it has evolved. I too do not believe it. There is not enough proof. I also don't believe that God made two humans named Adam and Eve and they mated with eachother many many times and created 100's of incest children. I do believe in God though, but I don't believe he is portrayed correctly through the bible.




CrazyHarij

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#6 14 years ago
X-CThat is evolution of our universe, and how it has evolved. I too do not believe it. There is not enough proof. I also don't believe that God made two humans named Adam and Eve and they mated with eachother many many times and created 100's of incest children. I do believe in God though, but I don't believe he is portrayed correctly through the bible.

I don't want to talk bad about christians, but perhaps he is portrayed correctly but interpreted incorrectly? You can easily suggest that all major religions are almost identical if you interpret them in that way, and look aside from circumstances, localised perceptions and laws et cetera.

A word used for God in the Bible, Eloah, is a direct localisation of (you guessed it) Allah. Thereby I find it ridiculous hearing christians saying "Muslims don't worship God, they worship some Allah".




Titus

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#7 14 years ago

Heh, I don't necessarily think they are saying it happened because of science, but rather, science can explain the phenomena of it. It was survival of the fittest which caused super-imposed thumbs to evolve. It was survival of the fittest which caused apes to start walking on two legs for greater height, more movement abilities, and hence greater hunting tactics. Science explains how and why these processes took place, not faith. It wasn't by chance that evolution took place.




D.Sporky!

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#8 14 years ago

Darwin explained evolution as "decent with modification." That's science. (though I do not personally believe it).

Titus, it is natural selection (survival of the fittest as you put it) that explains all that, but that is only one part of evolution. The rest is by random mutations. Yes, they are random, if they were not random then obviously something was guiding them. The likelihood of a successful mutations (never mind millions) is very unlikely, this part takes faith.




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#9 14 years ago

This is a useless argumant evolution of animals did happen and if you want I can give you pages and pages of reasons why. Keep in mind eveolution is not creation theory that you still have grounds to believe what you want but eveolution is not a debate it happens every day in front of your nose and those who do not believe it dont understand it. If I have to enlighten you all say so. For those of you who say now what are the odds of everything randomly going into place its not random natural selection guides our evolution.




Ekips

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#10 14 years ago

yeah I don't see how you cannot believe in natural selection when it makes perfect sense.