1st September 2002
Finnish police are blocking more than 1,000 legal websites, including one belonging to a well-known internet activist, under a secretive system designed to prevent access to foreign sites that contain child pornography, according to a group that advocates for individual rights online.
Among the estimated 1,700 destinations on the secret block list is lapsiporno.info, which has vocally criticized the Finnish censorship program, according to Matti Nikki, the site's creator and a long-time activist.
Of the 700 or sites that have been tested, only two are known to contain inappropriate images of children, said Tapani Tarvainen chairman of the Electronic Frontier Finland (EFFI). The remainder tend to be sites with adult-oriented themes, such as those offering legal porn, and forums for gay sex. In some cases, the sites - which include an online doll store, a Thai Windows advice forum and a computer repair service - have no visible link to porn or sex at all. - More.
Ok, now, what the ****? What's up with internet censorship?
I'm not able to grasp internet censorship. Even if the list actually contained child pornography sites, people can circumvent filters by use of proxies, anonymity networks or a DNS change.
Heaven's gonna burn your eyes
16th April 2005
only two are known to contain inappropriate images of children
Censorship is a bad thing, but so is child pornography.
Censorship should be client-side, by the request of the computer user, and not mandated by the state.
29th February 2004
The references to and instrument store and doll store both relate to same blocked domain. Specifically, it's a whole Japanese ISP's web server. One of the users probably has something the Finnish Police doesn't like, and that's all it takes to block the entire server.
The reference to "Windows tips in Thai" is to a whole ISP's server blocked in Thailand. They provide free web boards, so it's fairly reasonable to assume that those free boards are used to post child porn links. Child porn groups tend to communicate over forgotten guestbooks, forums, they use freesites to publish stuff, etc.
The whole point is that these legit sites are collateral damage, and the police doesn't care the slightest about it. As a matter of fact, the police has released a FAQ which quite directly suggests that since there are so many sites on the internet it doesn't matter if a few of them are blocked.
Quote taken from slashdot.org, written by the owner of one of the blocked sites.
Victim of Forgotten HopeForum bystander
26th April 2004
Funny that they put some quota women to minister places. She probably doesn't even properly understand what the Internet actually is.
Minister of Communications, Suvi Lindén says child porn is not a matter of freedom of speech. Well, if 2 out of 1000 sites actually contain child porn, what's the deal? Why the police can't cooperate with other polices, if most of the child porn sites were in the European Union or USA?
A lot of people are criticizing the plans (ISPs don't have to block the sites atleast yet), hopefully it won't ignored as a whining of a bunch of nerds. Most likely they will get sane though after being criticized enough.
What a shame..
29th November 2003
Our leaders are technologically impaired, to put it kindly. I wonder when they finally will realize people that actually know what a computer is could be suitable for positions where important matters are decided. :vikki:
If you care about your internet access, contact the evil force responsible for this and tell her how you feel about her incompetence.
Good - bunch of sick fucks getting off on kiddie porn. I'm not one for censorship but material that promotes abuse to children should be censored. In the US it's my understanding that folks trying to access kiddie porn sites are automatically redirected or blocked. If they persist users are flagged with a warning and often reported to the FBI or local law enforcement (often without their knowledge - hence why any of you sicko's shouldn't do it...and you know who you are). Some sites actually download a trojan horse to currupt the computer. My wife used to fix computers for a living and you'd be surprised what she'd find; and the owners of these computers bullshit attempt to explain away the content. We turned in many a twisted perv. Some of the content was beyond nasty - what people do to their own children, and then be stupid enough to save the evidence (must of learned from R.Kelly) - sick! With regard to the legal sites, some of those actually hide images of child porn within the site or provided links that members use covertly to jump from site to site - that could be why the Fins did what they did - my guess is that there is more to the news story then what was printed.
wow - now I get some of you folks. I got a bad rep from one of you who likes the kiddies...nasty.
1st September 2002
To whoever negrepped me for the first post with a neat comment ("Pedophiliac?"), I must answer "Of course!".
Why would anyone who is not a pedophile be concerned about censorship of sites, that don't even feature such material and is easily circumventable anyway?...[/sarcasm]
tyrannicida;4228327To whoever negrepped me for the first post with a neat comment ("Pedophiliac?"), I must answer "Of course!". Why would anyone who is not a pedophile be concerned about censorship of sites, that don't even feature such material and is easily circumventable anyway?...[/sarcasm]
Sucks doesn't it...I'd neg rep you, but someone apparently already beat me to it. What the fuck, you neg rep me - yes I read the article. I was giving my opinion on it, or did you not read what I wrote - Jerk!:mad:
Mad anger RAGE
30th July 2006
Who cares about rep? Stop crying :)