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GuineaPig

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#1 10 years ago

Was surprised there wasn't an article on this already, but the first U.S. presidential debate of the election campaign took place last night. To those who watched, let's discuss what you thought of it.

Personally, I thought it was a rather boring debate. The duration of it was almost exclusively centered around the current economic crisis and the war in Iraq. I think Obama did better than McCain, but it wasn't decisive. I really dislike the very fixed nature of the debates, I prefer a more free-for-all style because it usually means the debaters will stay on topic and will have greater freedom to challenge the other's points.




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#2 10 years ago

I happen to be watching it right now via youtube: YouTube - 1 of 11 - Obama / McCain Presidential Debate from Mississippi - 9/26/08

WIll comment on the debate later. Though I can already say that "who won the debate" (or who was the better of the two if you wish) doesn't have to mean one supports that candidate. I might end up deciding that Mc Cain won the debate due to better use of language, points, catching the other person of guard etc. but that doesn't have to mean he would be the best president. Obviuously the whole story can be turned around and applied to Obama aswell.

Expect my comment tomorrow (have to call it an early day in 30 minutes and I'm only 15 minutes into the debate so).

In short "Well said, I disagree though".

Edit: Mc Cains use of the word liberal is confusing to me, he said "Obama has the most liberal voting record as a senator" which to me as a European would mean he voted the most against goverment influence and regulation while McCains point is exactly the opposite... =p




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#3 10 years ago

Watch as McCain grits his teeth and mutters "horse shit". Or "question". I can't tell...

Anyways, the comment where McCain stated that we must "reduce spending" made my blood boil. If you vote with the president 90 percent of the time, support his spending misadventures and support the almost trillion dollar Iraq war, how the hell is that fiscally responsible? It isn't and there is no way you can rationalize otherwise.




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#4 10 years ago

Jeffro;4602136Watch as McCain grits his teeth and mutters "horse shit". Or "question". I can't tell...

Anyways, the comment where McCain stated that we must "reduce spending" made my blood boil. If you vote with the president 90 percent of the time, support his spending misadventures and support the almost trillion dollar Iraq war, how the hell is that fiscally responsible? It isn't and there is no way you can rationalize otherwise.

Sounds like "Question" to me.

Also "reducing spending" is a bit of an easy line. The answer lays in "more carefull and wise spending" . Wasting less on some things and raising spending where needed (education for example though I don't know the inds and outs of the under and over funded areas in the US). The issue shouldn't be the height of the spending but if you can justify every spent dollar. It then does not matter if you can justify every dollar in a 10 billion or 10 trillion spending. Ofcourse the higher the spending the harder it gets to jutify your spending though. And cleary the debt Bush got the USA in can't be justified.




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#5 10 years ago

I would not believe that McCain would be as dumb to swear in a debate.




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#6 10 years ago

No but my view on that debate, which l watched live here in oz, is that Mccain is fucken stressed, and in a bad spot to run a campane from, his own party caused that, anyways, all that niggly shit asside, Obama looked better on the night, smick pollished people person, one things for sure, its going to be a close election. Go Obama !




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#7 10 years ago

I was pleasantly surprised by Obama's performance. I had seen his debates last year, and it was apparent that he has become much more comfortable since then.

I don't remember anything new being said and no knockout punches were thrown so it was a virtual tie in my opinion. However, for undecided voters who have constantly heard about Obama's inexperience, I think that argument was thrown out the window. He more than held his own in the foreign policy portion of the debate, and I felt he did a better job connecting to the average person on the economy. Right now I remember very little of what McCain had to offer other than a version of "Earmarks, baby, earmarks!" and a criticism of Obama's earmarks while in the Senate. He could really have dissuaded the notion that his call to suspend the debates was nothing but political manuevering if he had presented a real plan to action.

The one thing Obama needs to do is go on the offensive. For most of the debate he seemed on the defensive when he could have easily hammered McCain about some of his arguments. Maybe that will change in the next debates with issies with which Obama feels more comfortable.




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#8 10 years ago

I enjoyed all the network talking heads after the first debate...just as clueless. Anywho, both candidates are going to inherit King George's bill for the last 8 years and all the burden that goes with it - not all Bush's fault though, just 30-some years of bad policies and politics. If you believe the historic think tanks our Republic has less than 60 years before it collapses. What will follow will make the fallout of Rome seem tame, oh well, but then again we are all suppose to be screwed in 2012 anyhow. also neither twit was willing to talk about immigration...I'll be waiting.




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#9 10 years ago
AlDaja;4602206 also neither twit was willing to talk about immigration...I'll be waiting.

It wasn't a debate on domestic issues. It will be covered in another one.




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#10 10 years ago

- I'm at 10/11 now, with them talking ab out Russia -

On foreign policies they didn't debated about israel as much as I would hope either. It was only briefly touched. A debate on how they few the events around Palestina and Isreal and how to deal with it would be interesting. As we all know, that area is a major factor in the justification of many muslim extremists who feel oppressed by the west (American crusaders). Their view on how to make peace or stabalize the region would have been highly interesting.

But I guess that area is too senstive... :( :uhm: