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Quetron

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#11 13 years ago

The teleban didn't allow the poppy. However, I seen a lady from there on tv, she said that when some other lady tripped and fell it shown her bare leg. The teleban beat her real bad. They also took people to a socker field for beheading or stoning, and made the people from the towns goto the stands to watch. Next door in pakistan, 3 school girls (christian) walking to school, they beat and raped them, and then forced the oldest to become a future bride because they pay thier dues for wrong doing.

This is only a micrscopic ammount of things that have happened in that area, I can't imagine such backwardness in all the time the world has existed. In pakistan, as a sentence, they use rape as the punishment for woman. In afganastan, solgers on a road got ambushed, oh now not just murdered, can you believe they skinned them. Thats the type of things that go on, and the teleban it was more , my way or the highway.You step out of line, boom, they also stopped all schooling for girls. But all I ever hear in the news is how bad USA and bush are, wich is really pissin me off.




czech speacial forces

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#12 13 years ago

^i have bad spelling, but that is just horrible spelling. i doubt pakistan uses rape as punishment. i know the taliban was a very strict islamic government. but why dount we invade saudi arabia? they kill people for gay or going to holy sites. they let some school girls burn to death because they didnt have their proper islamic clothes on. tolerance is key to peace, middle east dousnt have much of it.




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#13 13 years ago
czech speacial forces;3413968^i have bad spelling, but that is just horrible spelling.

Did you stop to think that English may be his second language? I sure as hell can't spell in anything other than English very well.

Back to the topic,

I'd say getting the Taliban out was good, for they did foster Al Qaeda, etc.




czech speacial forces

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#14 13 years ago
Zab;3414025Did you stop to think that English may be his second language? I sure as hell can't spell in anything other than English very well. Back to the topic, I'd say getting the Taliban out was good, for they did foster Al Qaeda, etc.

not many people are scoffing at afghanistan, we have NATO support there. its iraq that everyone scoffs at. and no from what i remember he lives in america.




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#15 13 years ago

The mission in Afghanistan seems to have far more support than the mission in Iraq, and I believe for good reason. The Taliban was certainly an oppressive regime, and did nothing for the country. Women weren't allowed to go to school, and everyone was subject to their strict rules (and harsh beatings should you disobey them). That being said, there seems to be quite an anti-war-in-Afghanistan sentiment here in Canada, which I think seems unwarranted. From what I gather, reading different sources, the troops over there generally agree with the mission. I think a lot of that sentiment comes from the fact that we aren't used to seeing our troops getting killed. There were relatively few casualties until late summer/fall of 2006 when we saw the Taliban resurgence, and the casualties skyrocketed. What actually really surprised me about this whole thing, is that you hear that this mission is all about going in and liberating people from an oppressive regime (the Taliban), and then after the Taliban is ousted and a whole new democratic government is set up, you read about the story of Abdul Rahman. To jog your memory, he's the poor Afghani fellow who converted to Christianity (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=21687), and was to be put to death (in accordance with the constitution of Afghanistan). Luckily for his sake, due to international pressure, he was set free. Really makes you shake your head.




AlDaja

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#16 13 years ago

To jog your memory, he's the poor Afghani fellow who converted to Christianity (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ar...rchiveId=21687), and was to be put to death (in accordance with the constitution of Afghanistan). Luckily for his sake, due to international pressure, he was set free.

Really makes you shake your head.

It’s a shame isn’t it? The so-called “practitioners of the religion of peace” get away with so much murder – literally. Too bad the folks in Indonesia aren’t getting the “international pressure” to stop little girls from getting beheaded because they refuse to believe in Islam.




EON_MagicMan

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#17 13 years ago
AlDaja;3417949It’s a shame isn’t it? The so-called “practitioners of the religion of peace” get away with so much murder – literally. Too bad the folks in Indonesia aren’t getting the “international pressure” to stop little girls from getting beheaded because they refuse to believe in Islam.

Well the whole Indonesia thing (if I'm thinking of the same incident, with the Christian school girls) was an act of terrorism, and not something being done in the name of the law, as was what was happening to Rahman, so that's kind of a different situation there. Of course, if the population generally accepts and believes that someone should be executed for converting, then what's anyone going to do about it? Sure, by our flavour and degree of freedom, it's most certainly a violation of human rights, but if you were to invade a country to get them to stop for the sake of the minority of converts facing death, you would make far more enemies than friends, and it's just not worth it. It's cultural (doesn't make it right), and since I imagine that there are few people who actually convert and get executed there (read: it's not a situation of genocide or extreme oppression, the latter of which I believe is was the case with the Taliban in charge), it's just not worth it to try to force our degree of freedom upon them, if the general population doesn't agree with that sort of thing.

*EDIT* I'm sure there are many muslims who would agree that one should have the right to convert, but unfortunately, moderate muslims (especially in the middle east) are few and have little power.




AlDaja

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#18 13 years ago

No I agree, I think the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, and other conversion tactics on a grand scale should be a testament for all time that it creates more problems – I’m of mind to presenting what you have to offer and let those who wish to convert, convert, but killing or maiming people in the name of God, does and should make society question the validity and sanity of such religions. To quote Star Trek: “I doubt any God that demands pain and cruelty for its own pleasure…”




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#19 13 years ago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6220256.stm this is one of the problems i have with islam, its intolerance. sharia law seems too...well....500 AD. this is modern day, we should accept the ideas of today. people should kill in the name of god. if there is god, allah, i doubt he wants people blowing themselves up killing many others. killing people for converting from islam is also very intolerant and makes me very angry. The point im making is that islamic countries are VERY intolerant, you getting killed for being gay in Saudi arabia, wtf is up with that, thats like killing retarded people, just for being retarded!! this is the sort of islam i cannot take and hate, i have no problem with the ones who act, dress like everyone else and dount push their ideas on me. but if i got pulled over in saudi arabia by the religeous police for being with my GF, i wouldnt mind fucken them up.




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#20 13 years ago
czech speacial forces;3417993http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6220256.stm this is one of the problems i have with islam, its intolerance. sharia law seems too...well....500 AD. this is modern day, we should accept the ideas of today. people should kill in the name of god. if there is god, allah, i doubt he wants people blowing themselves up killing many others. killing people for converting from islam is also very intolerant and makes me very angry. The point im making is that islamic countries are VERY intolerant, you getting killed for being gay in Saudi arabia, wtf is up with that, thats like killing retarded people, just for being retarded!! this is the sort of islam i cannot take and hate, i have no problem with the ones who act, dress like everyone else and dount push their ideas on me. but if i got pulled over in saudi arabia by the religeous police for being with my GF, i wouldnt mind fucken them up.

Like all defunct religious sects – they take scripture out of context and mind-f’k the disenfranchised or confused amongst a population to rally behind their cause, and what do they care, these people are just cannon fodder or tools to be used at their discretion in “the name of God.”