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Granyaski VIP Member

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#11 10 years ago
Inyri Forge;4799674lol please visit some Asian countries and revise your statement.

Mathematically if you line everyone in China(just china) up in a line and get them to walk past you it would never end as the population and birth rate is so high.

anyway I was going to say nuke everywhere and kill almost everyone but guess not...




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#12 10 years ago

Serio;4799243Overpopulation isn't a problem. Yet. There's still quite abit of space, and places like Greenland and Antarctica still doesn't have alot of people living there.[/quote]

In theory we could go and live in Antarctica, we could cover the entiry of its surface in thermo-regulated sky rises. In the process however we would kill all the penguins.

We have plenty of space left, the problem is that we destroy that space when we inhabit it.

You can cut down on your fossil fuel use, recycle more of the resources that you use and bike to work if you want. Having one less child will eliminate one person's impact on the environment, one less person even needs to recycle, because they don't exist.

An enviromentally friendly family of 5 will damage the world more than an enviromentally unfriendly family of 3. (If we ever find out what environmentally friendly actually means)

You can substitute the word resources for the word space and the word consumefor the word inhabit if you like.

I don't mind.

Inyri Forge;4799229The population would treble, eh?

This is more of an issue for countries like China, India, Bangladesh, etc, where overpopulation is actually a problem.

Well I suppose it is. Well done.

[quote=whitelancer11;4799499]i thought western country have few population than eastern country well at least based on the land area..

That's true, again, well done.




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#13 10 years ago

Maybe people should only be allowed to have one child, unless obviously, twins etc are born. Maybe the UK and other countries don't need to worry about that yet, but places like China etc should have thought about that long ago. If each couple has one child, that will (in time) half the population.




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#14 10 years ago
Aerilon;4799845but places like China etc should have thought about that long ago.

They did.




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#15 10 years ago
By extension poverty, homelessness, war, terrorism, obesity, Obama etc.

So...where does Obama fit into all this?

1 couple contains 2 people. If 1 couple gives berth to 6 children, that can be rationalised as 1 person becomming 3. If every couple had 6 children then the worlds population would treble in one generation.

But they don't.

I don't think its fair on the rest of the world to have four kids, by doing this you are essentially saying "It's ok for the population to increase from 6 to 12 billion in one lifetime." That's not ok. Its not fair on anybody.

So you're saying that every kid you have that is over the 2 necessary for a self-sustaining population, you have to somehow justify to the world they are going to be of greater use than detriment throughout the entirety of their lives?

The great thing about population growth is that its extremely tangible, extremely simple and easy enough to work out in your head.

Not really. It's not that simple. What about death rates due to diseases, accidents, etc? The reason that people say the child rate for couples to sustain a stable population is 2.1 is the other 0.1, on average, die before they get to have children. And very rarely is the birth rate going to be some nice round number. Say the birth rate is 2.73. Can you work out in your head how long it will take for the population to double? Is it really that easy?




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#16 10 years ago

Meh, overpopulation is self-correcting anyways. If the human race grows so large that it is incapable of being sustained then people die, and the population decreases.




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#17 10 years ago

But then why not just save us all the trouble of having to dispose of the corpses and just not give birth to them in the first place? Thus the reason for the discussion about overpopulation.




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#18 10 years ago
Inyri Forge;4799848They did.

Hmm.. Guess that didn't work then. I opt for 'the snip' on all Men in China who have had their first child. That would solve the problem. =p




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#19 10 years ago
Aerilon;4799895Hmm.. Guess that didn't work then.

Really? What are the statistics on China's population growth? I'm curious what it's at now compared to before they started the project.




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#20 10 years ago

Mr. Pedantic;4799856So...where does Obama fit into all this?[/quote]

Is he good? Bad? Good in some ways and bad in others? I don't know. Do you? The point is that, unlike most world issues, with population growth any child can see what is going to happen in the future and any child can see how to stop it.

Mr. Pedantic;4799856But they don't.[/quote]

Some people do, some people have sixteen. Even if everyone just has three the population increases by 50%.

[quote=Mr. Pedantic;4799856]So you're saying that every kid you have that is over the 2 necessary for a self-sustaining population, you have to somehow justify to the world they are going to be of greater use than detriment throughout the entirety of their lives?

You can't, because they aren't alive yet. I'm just saying, an easy way to help the world is to have less kids. Especially when you consider the number of homeless, orphan, poverty stricken, sick children there are in the world already.

Go adopt someone. Make a sad life happy rather than making a whole new one.

[quote=Mr. Pedantic;4799856]Not really. It's not that simple. What about death rates due to diseases, accidents, etc? The reason that people say the child rate for couples to sustain a stable population is 2.1 is the other 0.1, on average, die before they get to have children. And very rarely is the birth rate going to be some nice round number. Say the birth rate is 2.73. Can you work out in your head how long it will take for the population to double? Is it really that easy?

Fair enough, some people die. It's still pretty simple though. 2.1 is fairly close to 2 you know. Can you work out in your head how long it will take for the ice caps to melt due to carbon emmisions? because scientists can't. The scientific community isn't even in agreement on whether or not it's happening.