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Inyri Forge Advanced Member

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#11 14 years ago

Sli(kmost of the sodiers in Iraq, the men and women risking their lives to protect you[/quote]Oh, did I miss something? I wasn't aware that my life was immediately in danger.

USMA2010 Inryi, the skills used to clear a room and balance chemical equations are totally different.

Your logic works both ways. A chemistry student may not know how to clear a room, but then again what makes a drop-out any more likely to know? All I'm saying is I'd rather have someone with the right attitude defending me. Honestly if I could have it my way there would be no need for soldiers, but unfortunately my greatest wishes are far too idealistic.

[quote=USMA2010]One soldier in my uncle's company from Afghanistan did not graduate from high school, but is one of the best combat troops he had ever seen, and now he is a Ranger.

And yes, not all high school dropouts are losers. But a lot are. Generalization is bad, I'll admit that.




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#12 14 years ago
IR15H The concept of war is the same..

No its not, WW1, WW2, Korea, Gulf1 were very different from what is going on in iraq and afghanistan at the moment.

You need soldiers that know a little thing or two about the islamic culture, their customs. People whom are rational and intelligent to deal with potentially dangerous situations..

In wwII, the gi's did not have to deal with civilians or other cultures.. they were expected to kill, and die.




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#13 14 years ago

Inyri Forge:moved:

As for the issue, I say good for the navy! The army should learn a thing or two. Because really... do we want high school drop outs to be running around in another country with assault weapons? If they can't handle high school alegbra, what guarantee do we have that they can protect their country?

Very funny reply. What in the holy hell does knowing high school algebra have to do with handling a gun:lol: Females:lol:




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#14 14 years ago
├čeef FlapsVery funny reply. What in the holy hell does knowing high school algebra have to do with handling a gun:lol: Females:lol:

I think she meant how if they don't have the dedication or the intelligence to learn something as simple as Algebra, how can we trust them to protect us in the Armed Forces?




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#15 14 years ago
-Ghost-I think she meant how if they don't have the dedication or the intelligence to learn something as simple as Algebra, how can we trust them to protect us in the Armed Forces?

I disagree. That is all I will say. :beer:

USMA pretty much said what I think. Also I agree with Slick to some extent. A lot of kids join the Military for free college money. Most are wimps. I'd rather have a dedicated C level kid with street smarts out there with a gun than a pansy mommys boy that only joined for free money.

Oh, did I miss something? I wasn't aware that my life was immediately in danger

Oh man I despise when kids say that line. Brats.




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#16 14 years ago
Inyri ForgeOh, did I miss something? I wasn't aware that my life was immediately in danger. Your logic works both ways. A chemistry student may not know how to clear a room, but then again what makes a drop-out any more likely to know? All I'm saying is I'd rather have someone with the right attitude defending me. Honestly if I could have it my way there would be no need for soldiers, but unfortunately my greatest wishes are far too idealistic. And yes, not all high school dropouts are losers. But a lot are. Generalization is bad, I'll admit that.

[COLOR=black]So you'll only care about our soldiers when you need them to save your life, and until then you'll continue making bad-judgments about their decisions regarding their lives? Knowing the value of X or what a mol is has no relevance on the battlefield, everything they need to know they learn in basic training. USMA brought up a good point, even people who can afford college join the army, out of patriotism and love for their country - I.E, they're willing to bypass college completely and go to a god-forsaken desert 3,000 miles away because they love their country that damn much, and you're saying they have the "wrong attitude" because they don't give a crap about some mediocre degree; when they can even get training in 200+ fields WHILE in the army? What about the people who only enlisted to pay for college through the GI Bill, do they have the "wrong attitude"? You should be thankful there are men and women who don't care as much about a piece of paper as you do; who are willing to risk their lives fighting for the country - but it seems like you'd rather pass them off as hopeless burdens on society, and that's a real shame. [/COLOR]




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#17 14 years ago

:gpost: Very nice. It's sad others are blind to see that.




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#18 14 years ago

Sli(k[COLOR=black]So you'll only care about our soldiers when you need them to save your life, and until then you'll continue making bad-judgments about their decisions regarding their lives?[/quote]I would prefer they come home.

Sli(k[/COLOR][COLOR=black]Knowing the value of X or what a mol is has no relevance on the battlefield

And you're suggesting not knowing it does?

[quote=Sli(k][/COLOR][COLOR=black]who are willing to risk their lives fighting for the country

I would die to protect my country, and my family. I would not die for George Bush and his little crusade. I would not die for oil, I would not die to finish and unsettled quarrel. I would not die for the wrong reasons, and I don't want anyone else to, either. I want the soldiers to come home. [/COLOR]




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#19 14 years ago

├čeef Flaps I'd rather have a dedicated C level kid with street smarts out there with a gun than a pansy mommys boy that only joined for free money.

Cheers!

There is something called the Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Test and the Armed Forces Qualifying Test, which determine what you will be "allowed" to do in the military. This basically assures us that redneck morons will not be toting an M-16 around Baghdad or Fallujah, regardless of how desperate the military is for manpower. Those who score low are given the job of driving a 5 ton truck, or cleaning mess halls. You simply are not going to have idiots running around hostile areas.

Inryi, when you enlist, you know damn well what you are committing yourself to do. As someone who will be, in a matter of months, on their way to becoming a member of the United States Army, and as a family member of someone who has served three tours overseas since 9/11, I can assure you that our men and women are fighting for a cause that they deeply believe in. It is not about oil. If it was, oil would be cheaper. It is not about revenge. If it was, Saddam would be dead right now. It is not about a personal war. If it was, we would be home by now. It was about a perceived threat, and saving a nation from a ruthless man.

I have yet to meet a combat soldier from the USMC or Army who was unwilling to do his duty, who does not think that what he is doing in Iraq is worth what sacrifice he has prepared to lay upon the alter of liberty and freedom.




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#20 14 years ago

It's not like it takes much of a brain - or a paycheck - to get an associates degree. All it takes is dedication. Isn't that what you look for in an army recruit? Someone who has an attention span long enough to at least sit through and pass basic elementary algebra? You know, the kind of thing a 10 year old can do.

It's not about the grades. It's about the willingness to work, to get it done. Beef said it himself, as you just quoted.