15th January 2004
it's not exactly a 'want to be' though, it's an 'are'.
Some believe they are, some believe they choose to be, I believe they choose to be.
Well, that's a whole different discussion right there!! :lol:
But really, again I state, why do we make such a big fuss about it? We could just say ok---you can get married, and we wouldn't be bothered again.
Just let it go---Trust me---You'll feel better...by just ignoring it.
My feeling is that you wanna be gay? Thats fine, but I dont care to hear it. Gays use their homosexuality as their identity. It pisses me off. The second you meet one of them, they gotta tell you that they r gay. I dont care. And im sick of all these gay shows on TV. The queer eye for strait guy, king of queens, any of that crap. i dont care to watch that.
You wanna be gay? Thats fine, either go be gay somewhere else or dont tell me about it.
Hmm---First of all...I'm not gay...
---And secondy---you're post is about the most ignorant ones I've seen yet.
In reality---How many gay people do you talk to in a day? In my life---I've only talked to one, that I've known of...So I don't make judgements on them. Imagine if they made judgements of us, just by the TV. Holy shit, we'd all be immoral, infedility-ridden murderers, who take coke everyday.
You know what you can do if you don't want all those new gay shows? You can change the channel, or just ignore them. Like I said before---IGNORE THEM. I have, and I don't even think about them. Really, do you watch them so that you can be bothered by them? Aren't there only a couple...on obscure channels...on at 11pm at night---on saturday?
I've ignored the issues of gay marriage, gay tv shows, and all that other stuff...I feel great. It doesn't even bother me. I could care less. I think about it this way. Would I want gays telling me how to live my life? No, so why should I fuck up theirs? If you make it an issue, it bothers you.
Personally I'm sick and tired of the "look at me" gay brigade. Marriage is a religous institution. If they don't like it, then they can go away and form their own religion. My religion, as do many others, do not proscribe same sex partnerships. Marriage is not just about love, its about having children too. Where there is a man who provides one perspective/rolemodel and the woman provides the other. Marriage is not for homosexuals I'm going to stop calling them gays, because when I was younger gay meant happy and merry, not sticking your todger up another guys bum! For them to want to be married is like me wanting to be black or asian. Some fool can say oh yes we recogonise you as being of different skin color, but for all the world to see I'm white! For those that say they don't care what they do, then you relinquish your moral responsibility. Its like saying I don't mind if they steal, drink drive, or what ever, as long as they don't steal, run me over or whatever, from me. But the people who relinquish their moral and social responsibilities will still want their rights. For homosexuals and the relinquishers, with rights come responsibilities. I accept that two people of the same sex who prefer to be together would want the same recognised rights under law, but its not marriage its partnership. Give them the same legal status with respect to property and tax. What I have often wondered is why they have to be so up front with their sexual preference? tell the world! I had a friend who came out of the closet, and his flat had "pictures" of half naked men on the walls, why? When was the last time you went round to your friends house and his/her parents had half naked pictures of men/woman on the walls? It just does not happen. A nice landscape, picaso copy or similar. Normal people just don't advertise their sexual preferences in day to day life. You'd soon be ostracised from society (or locked up) if you went around telling people that you prefer doing it doggy or like oral sex first. From my observations of homosexuals lifestyles, it a completely hedonistic lifestyle (Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.) The local goverment offices that would deal with their partnership paperwork would soon get bogged down with re-applications. What is even more peverse is them wanting to have children...please god NO! Well I have a theory for you to observe. If they are born like that, then its genetic. And seeing as they have until recently been leading double lives in the past, hiding their despostion behind a conventional marriage with children, and passing on the gene. and since society now accepts them now, they will no longer have the need to reproduce. So if it is gentic, they will die out in few generations. If its choice then they will always be with us. I personally think its choice, coupled with overly protective mothers. Rant over.
goddamn who cares
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
Akula i understand that you don't want to give then the christian marriage title but you will always also have to marry in the cityhall (a goverment merriage). Give them the possibility to marry in the cityhall (and not in the church) the word marriage today hasn't that much to do with crisianity, if people say that they are married they don't have to be christian. The same thing applies to gays, give them a non-chrisian marriage. If we give them an other title what gives them the same rights then there would be still the possibility that in certain situations compagnies for example would only accept the status "married" if people want to claim a discount or something else. For example: a dutch couple went to germany a few years ago and they didn't get a discount in the hotel (families with 2 children would get a special discount) because the man and woman where not married, the couple showed them there passports to prove that this where their children and that theu where a family, but no the hotel didn't accept that and would only give them a discount when they where married.
this samething could happen to gays in certain situations: "you are not married so we won't/can't help you."
Thats why i as a hetrosexual atheist support gay marriage, here in the netherlands gay couples can marriage in the cityhall and i think that that is a good thing. I do however dislike gays who force their way of live on me, i don't care if you are gay or not, just let me live my own life.
I still support civil unions, always have, always will.