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A dollar a day keeps the babies away. That's the incentive behind College Bound Sisters, a program at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro that aims to keep 12- to 18-year-old girls in school and baby-free. Girls in the program attend 90-minute meetings every week at which they receive lessons in abstinence and the use of contraceptives — and they receive $7 every week they do not get pregnant. The money is deposited into a fund that's collectible when they enroll in college. But not everyone thinks paying kids to stay childless is the right way to lower the teen pregnancy rate. They say the program sends mixed messages, specifically to parents, that incentivizing good behavior is the way to go. "It makes me a bit uneasy," said Bill Albert, chief program officer at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy. "I do have mixed feelings. It's hard to pay people to do something that we think they should be doing regardless. It would be like if you didn't want young people to experiment with marijuana, you'd pay them not to do it."

Despite what he called his "gut-level queasiness" about paying girls not to get pregnant, Albert acknowledged that creative ways are needed to address the "very challenging social issue" of teen pregnancy. The nation's teen birth rate, after declining for 14 consecutive years, has increased over the last two years and now stands at 7.2 pregnancies per 1,000 teenage girls, Albert said. Furthermore, he said, three out of 10 young women become pregnant by age 20, and costs associated with teen pregnancies exceed $9 billion annually. With those figures in mind, paying girls $365 a year to stay childless seems like a "modest investment" — especially if the program works, Albert said. Dr. Hazel Brown, co-director of the program, said six girls of the 125 who have been enrolled for six months or longer have gotten pregnant or otherwise dropped out since it began in 1997. Funded by a grant from the state's Department of Health and Human Services, Brown said it costs about $75,000 a year to operate the program. "We talk about abstinence, but it's not a requirement," Brown told FOXNews.com. "We teach decision-making, being responsible and avoiding pregnancy. The meetings are very interactive." Enrollment in the program — which meets separately twice a week for two groups, ages 12-14 and 15-18 — is at capacity with 24 young women. To participate, girls must have never been pregnant, be enrolled in school, have a desire to attend college and have had a sister who gave birth before age 18. Recent graduates have left the program with up to $3,000 saved up for college, including four young women who are set to begin their higher education in the fall. Brown said the program is successful, and said its critics should consider the "cost of a teen getting pregnant," Brown said. "When you can prevent one of those, you've more than paid for a program like this," she said. "We want to give them something to work toward. And without exception, our girls have come from homes that did not have someone with a college education … "If somebody believes in you, there's no end to what a lot of people can accomplish."

North Carolina Program Pays Girls a Dollar a Day Not to Get Pregnant - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

Who else things this is weird? I understand what Brown is saying but to me it's like there Bribing not to have babies!

Yes I noticed I mess up the thread title...Get paid to keep (not get) your legs closed. Mods can you change that for me?


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#2 9 years ago

Sounds as if someone has a little too much money in their budget.

Couldn't they just include this program in the normal school curriculum?




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#3 9 years ago

I'd think so too, it seems a bit silly to pay people to "close their legs". Evne thought they say it works.

Are we going to pay people for not eating unhealthy (ea buy fastfood in the work/school cafeteria etc.) next? Or paying them not to get drunk (alcohol abuse)?

It's a tricky issue though, I don't want anybody to end up in a miserable situation without aid but neither do I want to sponsor some ignorant girl who really should have known better. I'd still opt for better education, advertising and perhaps easier (cheaper) access to condoms, the pill and other such items.




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#4 9 years ago

Too me this seem to be teaching them if your Good you'll get paid. What happened to learning the hard way? We seem to make all to easy these days, Get paid not to smoke, now get paid not get laid. Also this could turn the women in Lesbians perhaps?


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#5 9 years ago
Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw;4931021Too me this seem to be teaching them if your Good you'll get paid.

I think I am a fairly good person. I don't get paid, I still have to work for it.




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#6 9 years ago

This is no good. Abstinence is not the way to go. How can you reward someone for not having sex, when that is pretty much the biological purpose of their lives?

Are we going to pay people for not eating unhealthy (ea buy fastfood in the work/school cafeteria etc.) next? Or paying them not to get drunk (alcohol abuse)?

Effectively, we still pay for people to eat junk food because of how cheap it is compared to other foods - a pie at our high school cost about $1.50, and a comparable sandwich? $3.50.

It's a tricky issue though, I don't want anybody to end up in a miserable situation without aid but neither do I want to sponsor some ignorant girl who really should have known better. I'd still opt for better education, advertising and perhaps easier (cheaper) access to condoms, the pill and other such items.

Agreed. Such a closed view usually doesn't work, because when girls are caught in a situation where they feel compelled to have sex, they don't know about condoms, they don't know about the pill or the morning-after pill, they don't know about menstrual cycles (unless that is taught with a focus of contraception - very unlikely).

Also this could turn the women in Lesbians perhaps?

How? Not having it with guys might. But not having it with anyone full stop? Doubtful, I think.




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#7 9 years ago
Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw;4931021Also this could turn the women in Lesbians perhaps?[/QUOTE]i dont see the problem with that. either way im happy but in all seriousness i think what is said below me is a good idea. [QUOTE=MrFancypants;4930949] Couldn't they just include this program in the normal school curriculum?



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#8 9 years ago

What a waste of money. How about you pay me not to have sex with them.




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#9 9 years ago

$1 a day not to keep their legs closed? Does that mean they'd open their legs for $1.01 day? Shit, that's cheaper than buying them dinner. Where is this school again?




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#10 9 years ago
MrFancyPantsCouldn't they just include this program in the normal school curriculum?

Some things make simply too much sense. We shouldn't talk about that. :beer: