Global climate change: fact or myth? 20 replies

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Delta Force

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#1 12 years ago

There have been some strange wheater events going on lately, snowing in Texas, a huge hurricane season, Hurricane Katrina. I can think of many other signs. Does anyone think that the world's climate is begaining to change?




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#2 12 years ago

The climates has changed ever since earth was created and it will always continu to change. Too wish degree we humans effect this global climate change is the real qustion though. I'm sure we do but to which extend I can not say.




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#3 12 years ago

You relly can't blame the string wierd weather on anything at this time. It has only been happening for a few years. Untill you have studied what is happening the long term, don't make assumptions and say "OMFGZ! Its teh global warming!"

Weather records have only been kept for about 130 years and weather patterns are long term changes. Weather is constantly changing on earth so it is hard to make assumptions.




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#4 12 years ago

I wonder what made you bring up this? :p It's going to happen (and is as we speak) - nothing to do with nature, it's all down to us. However, I think Donitz put this as well as anyone could do.




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#5 12 years ago

If you don't minded I added an extra option to the poll to reflect my opinion "Yes, it's just natural climate change though we too affect it to a certain extend" (whatever that "extend" might be). ' edit: I also added " Yes, though it's mostly a natural effect and we only contribute very little to it." and " Yes, and we are to blame for most of it." just for the sake of it. This should cover most opinions I think.




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#6 12 years ago

Take a look at this:

instrumentaltemperaturerecord0.png

The fact that this "leap" in temperature started at about the time of the Industrial Revolution, and spiked even further during the 1950-60s (when most cars were running leaded fuel, and there were enough of them to have an impact), can't be just a simple coincidence - global temperatures may have been rising, but we gave them enough of a kick for it to become a serious problem...




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#7 12 years ago

i used to belive completely in the concept of global warming but reading 1 book made me question my opinions, it was a novel but was also very factual i even looked the facts up to see of they were true, even if we do cut carbon dioxide emissions like donitz said the climate changes all the time, some people say the world will warm up some people say we are in for another ice age, so really no-one knows. maybe in a few 100 years we will know but by then it could be too late.




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#8 12 years ago

We're actually coming out of an ice age, and the glaciers (which used to go from the geographic north pole as far down as Utah) are receding. We've observed the speed they recede at, and they are receding faster and faster at an alarming rate. We have a pretty good idea of how the weather changes through LONG periods of geologic time, and this is quite the anomaly. I think denying global warming makes you in denial of something that's real, and I think humans have quite a bit to do with it. Article from today: Pacific islanders move to escape global warming http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyid=2005-12-06T200127Z_01_HAR577036_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENVIRONMENT-CLIMATE-ISLAND.xml Something definitely needs to be done to prevent this from further happening.




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#9 12 years ago

Hey Donitz, thanks for adding the new poll choices.

And that graph is very intresting, everytime before a world war the graph would begain to decline, than it would shoot back up. Also, if you look at the graph, you can see that the temp. changes occur in stages. It seemed that this was a self correctig process untill we begain to get mote industrialied. Every 10 years the temp went up, than went down. It could have recovered but it became irreversable in the 20s.

And I don't think this is global warming as much as it is a climate change. How do we know the Earth's not slightly changing it's axis each year?

It's probley a natural process with some human backing. We have messed with mother nature for too long, and now we must pay. My dad says this could be from when most of the forests in Europe were burned down in midevil times for fuel, and that it caused Earth to get cold, and now it is returning to normal. Intresting idea, huh?




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#10 12 years ago

Climate change is real, regardless of whether or not human activity is a factor. However, I think humans do play a role in local climate, and it is dangerous to ignore the problem and make an argument that it is arrogant to think that we could affect such a complex process. Whether it is natural or not, it will eventually hurt us unless you find some way to adapt.