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Joe Bonham

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#1 12 years ago

Yes, there have been scads of global warming threads already. But since it is an ever changing, constantly updated subject, its only appropriate that the latest news should be posted. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=UKVZ1NLENYY1XQFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml It discusses virtually every issue surrounding the subject. I didn't know a lot of this! For example, I knew the arctic icecap used to be much smaller, but I didn't know that it used to be practically non-existent - in 1421 the Chinese were able to sail around up near the north pole, which is now covered in ice. The shrinking ice cap on Mt. Kilijamaro is often cited as an example of global warming. But it turns out this is because of deforestation, which makes the air dryer (I knew about African deforestation, but I never made the connection) Very interesting. So even if we were responsible for the warming, its not the "disaster" that global warming advocates are claiming it is.

Oh and BTW - here's the last prediction James Hansen made:

In 1988, James Hansen, a climatologist, told the US Congress that temperature would rise 0.3C by the end of the century (it rose 0.1C), and that sea level would rise several feet (no, one inch).

Once Hansen made a presentation in California. He brought up his graphs thinking he was talking to a bunch of ignorant stock brokers. Turns out, he was talking to the best staticians and mathmeticians in the country. They ripped the poor guy to shreds.




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#2 12 years ago
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#3 12 years ago

For every natural disaster that seems not to be connected with global warming caused by humanity, there are dozens that are. (read Anlushac's link)




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#4 12 years ago

Sorry, but an article written by one person about a report that is 5 years old doesn't convince me.

I'd rather rely on a new report written by an independant organization, like this one: http://darwin.nap.edu/books/0309102251/html/R1.html




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#5 12 years ago

Looks pretty weak. Poor site reliability, and age is far from current.




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#6 12 years ago

Back at ya :D

http://www.climatehotmap.org/

So you're just repeating the statements made in the article... how is this an argument? Nobody arguing that the warming isn't happening.

None of this information is new - this is just the best description of it I've seen for a while.

Sorry, but an article written by one person about a report that is 5 years old doesn't convince me.

Weak argument.




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#7 12 years ago

Machiavelli's Apprentice;3348561So you're just repeating the statements made in the article... how is this an argument? Nobody arguing that the warming isn't happening.

None of this information is new - this is just the best description of it I've seen for a while.

So you can find natural explanations for all those issues?

Weak argument.

It wasn't an argument, he was just stating he wasn't convinced by it.




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#8 12 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice;3348561 Weak argument.

I don't think so. An independant study carried out by request of the congress has a few advantages over a story posted by single person in a newspaper.




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#9 12 years ago

I admit to not reading teh entire article, but what I did skim through seems to suggest more "Scientific proof" that all this "global warming" and "climate change" is natural.

The map I posted shows a listing of places around the world that are seeing unnatural weather and unnaturally high temperatures.




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#10 12 years ago

Yeah this entire thread is just an attempt to undermine recent climate research suggesting hard & inconvenient truths.