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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago

The purpose of this thread is to 'share' your individual views on Jesus. Who (or What) he was, what he did (or does) stand for, and anything else that any individual believes they need to state. I'd appreciate if Moderators left this thread apart from the Religious Discussion. [COLOR=red]Rules:[/COLOR] - No Arguing - No Insulting - No 'I am right' speech Those that cannot follow these rules, don't post. Everyone is entitled to their own unique opinion, and with that, nobody who posts here is right, nor are they wrong, they are just stating THEIR opinion on the matter at hand. Now, Jesus... Apparently, it is a Fact that there was once a Man, back approximately 2008 years ago, who was called Jesus, and who could do some pretty unique things when compared to your average person. The question though, asks was he the Son of God (assuming that God is what many believe 'it' to be). To me, Jesus is, or could have been one of two things. 1) An Alien, who came down to Earth, to inspire the Human race, and to try and make us better ourselves, and to think of each other. It could be that an Alien (or an Alien species) have been watching over Humanity for quite some time, and choose that time to intervene. 2) Jesus was simple a gifted individual, who could do things that others could not, thus made a story (of sorts) to make himself special when compared to others. We have people now who can do extraordinary things, people can supposibly talk to the dead, see our fortunes, and if you are David Blane, can do some other seriously weird stuff too. What is to say Jesus simply wasn't just another person, who decided (with a few talents) to get his views on what was right, and what was wrong across to other people, filling in various gaps along the way? Jesus is suppose to be the Son of God. God (supposibly a being of great power) was suppose to have created Earth, and he then created the other planets, and everything else after. That being the case, surely Earth would be the center of the universe (as many at some point believed). I cannot say God doesn't exist, nor can I say that Jesus wasn't the Son of God. However, I can't say either that both God and Jesus are what they are suppose to be. Many a time, I have heard people state God to be a being of immense power. Yet, whenever anyone suggests that God could be an Alien, they are dismissed. I fail to see why. To these people, it would appear that Aliens could not have this immense power that a 'God' is suppose to have. In then ponders the question, how would one label a 'God'. What exactly is a 'God'? One possible theory that I have read, and could probably go along with, is that Aliens were responsible for God and Jesus. Aliens came to this Solar System, created Earth, and put Life on the Planet, just as 'God' would have been able to do, and then went away. Jesus could have simply been my second opinion. *Note: When I say Aliens created Earth, I mean that they came across a 'dead' planet, and with technology, brought it to life. But to keep an open mind, what are YOU thoughts as to what God and Jesus actually are?




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#2 10 years ago

I think Jesus was . . a Middle Eastern man. That's all I'll share out of fear of having my beliefs picked apart by fellow members.




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#3 10 years ago

I feel that Jesus was the son of God in human form.

I feel that God is the creator, before there was nothing, only him, and he created everything. He didn't create Earth "first" per say, but created the universe and chose Earth as the place to put life.

I don't believe that any of it has anything to do with "aliens" (as we view them in popular culture)

Also, I will be watching this thread closely, any posts that don't keep to the rules (both the ones Tycoon requested and the official forum rules) will be removed.


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#4 10 years ago
Ihaterednecks;4232676I think Jesus was . . a Middle Eastern man. That's all I'll share out of fear of having my beliefs picked apart by fellow members.[/quote]You don't hang about, I've only just posted this, and you've replied already :lol: Anyway, I'd ask that you share all your opinions. Afterall, nobody is right or wrong in this thread. If people start arguing, or going against these rules, I'll be asking a Moderator to get involved. The entire point of this thread is to share your views. If you wont do so in fear of what others may think say, then you are ignoring the point of the thread. ;) I'd note also, if you recieve any neg rep here, ask a Moderator to find out who gave it to you, and sort it out. Seeing as this thread is an 'opinions only' thread, there should be no need for anyone to give anyone else neg rep.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;4232680I feel that Jesus was the son of God in human form. I feel that God is the creator, before there was nothing, only him, and he created everything. He didn't create Earth "first" per say, but created the universe and chose Earth as the place to put life.[/quote]A fair assesment. Though, a question if I may. You say you believe God choose Earth as a starting point for Life, do you, on that front, believe in Aliens (as we know them in common culture)? If Earth, and Humans were first, then we would be far superior to any other life out there. [quote=S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;4232680]I don't believe that any of it has anything to do with "aliens" (as we view them in popular culture)
I should note, that when I say Aliens in this thread, I don't mean the popular culture type we think of now. I don't mean Aliens that fly around in space ships, I mean some form of alien life far superior to that. :) [quote=S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;4232680]Also, I will be watching this thread closely, any posts that don't keep to the rules (both the ones Tycoon requested and the official forum rules) will be removed.

Thanks. I appreciate it. :)




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#5 10 years ago

I could care less about my reputation, it's a number on the internet, and there are a lot of numbers on the internet.

Religiously I'd love to say I "believe" in him as my personal . . savior, despite the inherit cornyness of that statement, but the thing is, I don't. I believe in the Man with the long beard up above to the left to the right and maybe a little bit northwest, but I see them in more of a natural light. Natural as in "Part of Nature." I deviate even less from religion by saying I refuse to submit to either God or his Infernal counterpart. It's abstract and hard to understand if you don't live inside my head.




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#6 10 years ago
Tycoon;4232683 Though, a question if I may. You say you believe God choose Earth as a starting point for Life, do you, on that front, believe in Aliens (as we know them in common culture)? If Earth, and Humans were first, then we would be far superior to any other life out there.[/quote] Personally, I don't believe there is anything else "out there". [quote=Tycoon;4232683] I should note, that when I say Aliens in this thread, I don't mean the popular culture type we think of now. I don't mean Aliens that fly around in space ships, I mean some form of alien life far superior to that. :)

Well, if you think of the word "alien" like this. Something that is foriegn to us (humans) that we really don't understand/comprehend, then one could say the concept of God is "alien" to us.

I also don't believe there are little men flying around in ships abducting people and killing cows.


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#7 10 years ago
Ihaterednecks;4232690I could care less about my reputation, it's a number on the internet, and there are a lot of numbers on the internet.[/quote]Quoted for Truth. :)
Ihaterednecks;4232690Religiously I'd love to say I "believe" in him as my personal . . savior, despite the inherit cornyness of that statement, but the thing is, I don't. I believe in the Man with the long beard up above to the left to the right and maybe a little bit northwest, but I see them in more of a natural light. Natural as in "Part of Nature." I deviate even less from religion by saying I refuse to submit to either God or his Infernal counterpart. It's abstract and hard to understand if you don't live inside my head.[/quote]In other words, you use your life as you want to, and live it by free will? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? [quote=S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;4232694]Personally, I don't believe there is anything else "out there".
If this is to be the case, then one must ponder our existence.. Space is a big place. Anyway, this isn't the place to discuss whether aliens exist or not (at least, aliens flying around in space ships, killing our cows) ;) I guess they've got a liking to Beef Burger too... [quote=S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;4232694]Well, if you think of the word "alien" like this. Something that is foriegn to us (humans) that we really don't understand/comprehend, then one could say the concept of God is "alien" to us.

A fair point. I could go with the theory that God is an Alien (or Aliens). A group of intelligent and supernatural life, living (or simply existing) outside of time and space. Obviously we can't actually comprehend that, because we can't comprehend what isn't time. I usually wouldn't define Alien in this sense, but for this topic, I am. :)




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#8 10 years ago

How is jesus any alien :P Moses came first and built the pyramids :P

joking aside:

I believe that jesus was the prophet and founder of the religion of Christianity. I believe that he was ONLY a prophet, and not a god or the son of one. I believe he is the messiah[also a variation here to christians']. I believe he is still alive and in heaven, waiting for the time to come back. Dont know what else to say really.




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#9 10 years ago

Okay...I don't believe in Jesus, or in God. I don't really believe that someone could part the waters of the Nile (okay, so that wasn't Jesus, but it is the bible), I don't believe that someone born in a manger started preaching about God and I don't believe anybody died so that the rest of us could atone for our sins in proxy.




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#10 10 years ago

From a historical perspective Jesus was the Martin Luther Jr./Mother Teresa of his day. Despite what skeptics wish to believe today, it was written that he was a man of great inspiration and devoted to all the best things humanity had to offer and could achieve. The Roman’s regarded him as an oddity, the Jews, a heretic and to his followers a man who could do no wrong, someone who understood their strife the plead for something greater than the day to day oppression of those who controlled their purse and lives – their savior. Do I believe he was the Son of God? To be honest, I don’t know. I wasn’t there, and so much of that time has been obscured with second or third hand observations, embellishments to promote one set of concepts or another and scripture has been rewritten to meet the needs of culture, race, etc. etc. and continues to be molded to fit theological ideals today – to be fair so has other doctrines, and that’s the problem; too much mysticism and fan fare to misdirect and confuse people, look at the different divisions of Christianity if proof is needed. – I don’t deny he was a remarkable man and there are something’s that can’t be proven or denied (when the earth shook upon his death – coincidence?). Whatever he was man, god in the flesh or something else – what matters is that he attempted to change the corrupt world he saw around him into something better, something better for humanity. In essence he did what most people try to do, to leave our mark in hopes of changing the world for the better before our time here is finished. Love him, hate him or deny him is inconsequential. What matters, is that he indeed left his mark and it’s affects have cascaded through the ages in one form or another some with disastrous consequences to native peoples or opposing beliefs and other with the true spirit of his ideals and philosophy that have allowed nations to flourish and people to thrive – and that alone is phenomenal. If not a god, then a profound man of thought and spirit, despite what other have proclaimed in his name. His peaceful teachings and awakening to what humanity can and should strive for have survived the catacombs of time…and that alone warrants a deep respect.

Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks viewpost.gif I think Jesus was . . a Middle Eastern man. That's all I'll share out of fear of having my beliefs picked apart by fellow members.

Don’t do that – if what you believe at a spiritual level is profound then you shouldn’t allow another’s contempt to dissuade what you believe to be true, unless deep down you know the contempt is warranted – in which case self reflection and assentation as to why is needed – sometimes you just need to step out of the bubble gather a whole new perspective and take from the old what will strengthen the new, something that took me a long time to figure out.