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Greenvalv

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#1 11 years ago

Saw this:

Here is a story I received today regarding the Social Security Program. Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised: 1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary, 2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program, 3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year, 4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and, 5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income -------------------------------------------------------------------

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month --and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away" -- you may be interested in the following: ------------------------------- ------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it? A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate. --------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding? A: The Democratic Party.

>----------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities???? A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.-------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants? This is MY FAVORITE: A: That's right! Jimmy Carter! And the Democratic Party of course!

Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violating of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

Teheheeeeeee, I say we eliminate FICA program and make it mandatory that you have a 401k plan... yeah...




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#2 11 years ago
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it? A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate. ---------------------------------------------------------------

I wonder why he did this. Vietnam maybe, or it could be his Great Society program, better known as the great waste of money program. Literally billions of dollars pumped into welfare public housing and other "handouts," and it didn't even solve its goal which was to reduce poverty. All it did was make more people dependent on the government to solve their problems. Thank God the government has cut back and dismantaled and reformed it for the most part.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities???? A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.-------------------------------------------------------------------

The more money to waste and give away the better.

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants? This is MY FAVORITE: A: That's right! Jimmy Carter! And the Democratic Party of course!

Don't even get me started on ol' Jimmy Carter. Undisputedly one of the worst presidents this country has ever had and by far the worst of recent times. Just because you're a good humanitarian doesn't mean you're a good president.

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violating of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

Of course they would do something like that. Who really wants to say yeah we robbed the American people. Altough it's unfortunate that Republican party hasn't taken any steps to repeal these laws. But of course who would it means less money and less money means the government can controll less, and God forbid we take steps away from becomming a wellfare state. :rolleyes:




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#3 11 years ago

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#4 11 years ago

Obviously that story is written by some pro-Republican so I wouldn't blindly trust on it, especially as it claims that people are paying 85% of their FICA as taxes which I don't think is the case.

Buddy JesusThe more money to waste and give away the better.

It's ineffective and corrupted government to blame, not the social programs themselves which are there to help people. I don't think the Republican model, leaving people to their own, would be that working help either.

The story is a clear sign that the election time is slowly coming (again).




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#5 11 years ago

When refering to the welfare system in the US, "ineffective and corrupt" is a vast understatement - the aftermath of Katrina is a prime example of this. While I myself am Republican/conservative biased and agree that there are many facts in that story (I have quoted some of them myself), it also ommits many facts of Republican wrongdoing on the part of Social Security and I must concede that it is election time propaganda. By the way Relander: the part of the story refering to taxes on FICA means that 85% of Social Security income (received) is considered taxable income not that we are paying 85% of FICA as taxes.




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#6 11 years ago
Relander;3842867It's ineffective and corrupted government to blame, not the social programs themselves which are there to help people. I don't think the Republican model, leaving people to their own, would be that working help either.

This was my point somewhat, in that typically dems. tend to try and throw money at the problem, especially when it portains to education and social programs, whereas in reality the programs could be streamlined and the funds allocated more responsibly to solve the problem.




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Buddy JesusThis was my point somewhat, in that typically dems.

The Democrats propably contribute to the problem but I would blame the structure of government & civil servant machinery as a whole. Allowing the procedure of making earmarks is a good example of this.

whereas in reality the programs could be streamlined and the funds allocated more responsibly to solve the problem.

Though what does this mean in practice? Cut funding from social programs and transfer it to tax cuts? I think proper planning & supervision of programs combined with competent civil servants, some efficiency principles taken from business world & cross-administrative cooperation would help quite a bit.




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#8 11 years ago
Relander;3843512Though what does this mean in practice? Cut funding from social programs and transfer it to tax cuts?

Bingo, give the man a cookie! =p




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#9 11 years ago
Greenvalv;3843976Bingo, give the man a cookie! =p

And that's something to be proud of? Wow...:Puzzled:




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#10 11 years ago
Relander;3843512Though what does this mean in practice? Cut funding from social programs and transfer it to tax cuts? I think proper planning & supervision of programs combined with competent civil servants, some efficiency principles taken from business world & cross-administrative cooperation would help quite a bit.

Yes to some extent I do mean tax cuts and less money put towards some social programs. However it also means cutting back on funding in large bloated organizations such as the IRS and others which in turn would hopefully make them more efficient.




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