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Admiral Donutz VIP Member

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#1 13 years ago

This was just on "Nederland 1" (in "Netwerk" , a program on recent events) article from the BBC: Guinea Pig Kids Vulnerable children in some of New York's poorest districts are being forced to take part in HIV drug trials. During a nine month investigation, the BBC has uncovered the disturbing truth about the way authorities in New York City are conducting the fight against Aids. HIV positive children - some only a few months old - are enrolled in toxic experiments without the consent of guardians or relatives.

In some cases where parents have refused to give children their medication, they have been placed in care.

The city's Administration of Children's Services (ACS) does not even require a court order to place HIV kids with foster parents or in children's homes, where they can continue to give them experimental drugs.

Reporter Jamie Doran talks to parents and guardians who fear for the lives of their loved ones, and to a child who spent years on a drugs programme that made him and his friends ill.

Young lives

In 2002, the Incarnation Children's Center - a children's home in Harlem - was at the hub of controversy over secretive drugs trials.

Jamie speaks to a boy who spent most of his life at Incaranation. Medical records, obtained by the This World team, prove the boy had been enrolled in these trials.

"I did not want to take my medication," said the boy, "but if you want to get out of there, you have to do what they say."

He also conveys a horrifying account of what happened to the children at Incarnation who refused to obey the rules. "My friend Daniel didn't like to take his medicine and he got a tube in his stomach," he said.

Powerless

Dr David Rasnick from the University of Berkeley who has studied the effects of HIV drugs on patients - particularly children - says these drugs are "lethal".

"The young are not completely developed yet," he says. "The immune system isn't completely mature until a person's in their teens."

So why are these children targetted? Is it simply because they cannot defend themselves?

At the beginning of this investigation, the ACS said that no child was selected for trials without a long process of decision making, but declined to comment further.

For months, the BBC tried to get information from the people responsible for the trials, but none would comment.

The companies that supply drugs for the trials are among the world's largest, including Britain's own Glaxo SmithKline (GSK).

GSK responded to BBC programme makers, saying that all trials follow stringent stardards and are compliant with local laws and regulations.

Under federal rules, consent for children to take part in drug trials has to be given by their parents.

But what if that child is in the care of New York City authorities, which volunteered it for trials in the first place?

Guinea Pig Kids was broadcast on Tuesday, 30th November, 2004, at 1930 GMT on BBC Two (UK). source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/4035345.stm more over: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/4038375.stm http://www.nyc.gov/html/acs/ http://www.nyc.gov/html/acs/ http://www.gsk.com/index.htm --- Shows some freightning simularities with the tests the nazi's conducted on kids... Forcing poor kids to "test" medicens is unacceptable IMO. First i saw those "the USA is become a second nazi empire" as a joke, but reading stuff like this is making me agree more and more with that statement. This stuff is just sick! o.gif




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#2 13 years ago

sick bastards

but if this is true then this would be all over the news and this is the first time iv heard of it




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#3 13 years ago

The kids are HIV positive anyway. Its not like they have much hope. Plus how do you find a cure if you dont experiment on somebody thats positive? I agree though that what their doing is wrong and whoever's in charge should get life in prison. Col Jimmy Emeric have you ever heard of something called "censorship"




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#4 13 years ago

i think BBC :Censored: taking :Censored: kids who have no future, and giving them a purpose, a meaning in life to help other future AIDs victims, is nothing less than good. and wtf is BBC doing reporting on things occuring in america...

[EDITEDBY="Biggus Dickus"]And I think you should cut down profanities in your post. Or don't bother to post at all.[/EDITEDBY]




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#5 13 years ago
Panzer - SS and wtf is BBC doing reporting on things occuring in america...

That is what they do, look for things wrong in america.




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#6 13 years ago
Panzer - SSi think BBC needs to pull the [color=Blue]-beep-[/color] out of its [color=Blue]-beep-[/color] and shut the [color=Blue]-beep-[/color] up, taking [color=Blue]-beep-[/color] kids who have no future, and giving them a purpose, a meaning in life to help other future AIDs victims, is nothing less than good.

So the nazi experiments on disabled children where perfectly okay aswell? People who are doomed still deserve to live a good life aslong as it last. Nobody has the right to do experiments on any person, no matter what! Sure they should do test on people with AIDS but only when they asre willing to be used as a guinea pig. This kids (and there parents!) obviously don't want this experiments to take place. This is just as worse as what Mengele did in the concentration camps! Heil Bush?!

and wtf is BBC doing reporting on things occuring in america...

And what the hell is the US doing do you think? The media curses France, the goverment wrote a law to allow them to invade the Hague (Den Haag, Holland) when the international court of justice tries to trial a goverment official, soldier or civilian from the USA! Every country has the right to critizise the actions of an other country!




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#7 13 years ago
Panzer - SSand wtf is BBC doing reporting on things occuring in america..

Ho yeah...A media that is not under US governement's control...What a shame...:rolleyes:




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#8 13 years ago
Panzer - SSand wtf is BBC doing reporting on things occuring in america...

it's called free press. ever heard of it?




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#9 13 years ago

i just fuind it funny that British news is reporting on shit occuring in New York, not that i dissaprove of it, but just... funny... IMO...




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#10 13 years ago
Stealth3The kids are HIV positive anyway. Its not like they have much hope. Plus how do you find a cure if you dont experiment on somebody thats positive? I agree though that what their doing is wrong and whoever's in charge should get life in prison. Col Jimmy Emeric have you ever heard of something called "censorship"

Imagine you get infected with an incurable disease, would you like to be treatd like this? What is more you can actually cure HIV, I heard you get a pretty good chance if you manage to pay for the treatment.