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#11 10 years ago
Zamamee;4788879Your poll is somewhat inaccurate. Weed is not a hallucinogen. To be more on topic, you'd be much better off with actual prescription antidepressants than trying to self-medicate with hallucinogens, for reasons that the1chaos did an excellent job of describing.

Yes it is its more of a mild hallucinogen/pyscedelic. I've experinced weed hallucination witch was a bunch of black cricles invading my vision I think its called the "smoke screen effect" I think that pyscedlics will help me appriate life much more becuase I hope to intake alot of mushrooms and get really freaked out. lol




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#12 10 years ago

Jeffro;4788977With depression weighing heavily on both sides of my family, I naturally get the brunt of it.

That being said, I smoked a lot of dope to see if that would quell my depression just a little bit. Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly) enough, it just made me brainless and lazy. Conversely, a month later after I ceased smoking, I've become so bitter, inhuman and wrapped up into my own ridiculous malaise that I can rarely crack a smile unless I'm with close friends or family. Then I start hitting the bottle heavily, so it's just like a triathlon with drugs, handing off one baton and picking up the other. Being depressed and angry all of the time is really unhealthy, though low and behold...

...I don't have insurance, so no medication for me! :rofl:

Dude, citalopram without insurance costs 18 bucks and some change for 30 pills. I'm not sure what the other SSRIs and SNRIs cost, but if they're in that ballpark, then that's pretty good for a month's supply. Find a psychiatrist, see if you need/can get a prescription, and fill it. It's the price of, what, 3 30-racks of shitty beer? And it's for, y'know, a month, not a night.




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#13 10 years ago

Why would you want to cure depression? It's a part of life, accept it.




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#14 10 years ago

Why would you want to troll? It's a part of the internet, ban it.




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#15 10 years ago
Videoslave;4788826Do you believe that haulcengens can cure depression I think they very well can becuase of the high rate of anixety they can bring can make you literally scared of death. I thought of this when I was stoned and I started having susicdual thoughts I started becoming really scared to die and I was going to go cut myself but I started thinking about smoking more so that stoped me.

Those drugs affect your endorphins, which makes you feel better, but they don't cure a thing. Endorphins don't moderate your mood.

Depression is rooted in many other chemical imbalances, mainly lack of seretonin. The only real thing that can touch seretonin is Prozac and friends.

Trust me, when you're depressed and/or anxious, your ability to make logical and/or rational conclusions flies out the fucking window.




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#16 10 years ago
Crazy Wolf;4789192Dude, citalopram without insurance costs 18 bucks and some change for 30 pills. I'm not sure what the other SSRIs and SNRIs cost, but if they're in that ballpark, then that's pretty good for a month's supply. Find a psychiatrist, see if you need/can get a prescription, and fill it. It's the price of, what, 3 30-racks of shitty beer? And it's for, y'know, a month, not a night.

Well, I'm not going to take a swing at such action yet. That's a heavy duty drug and I need to do more research.




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#17 10 years ago

For the original question of this topic: I think depression can lead you to take drugs and it may provide temporarily relieve but it will certainly not cure it. Because when the drugs wear off the depression will slowly return and the only good ways to get rid of the depression completely is to get to the root causes of the depression and do something about it or start taking anti-depressants. If the anti-depressants don't work then maybe go see a therapist but I do not recommend taking drugs to get rid of it and I certainly do not recommend doing nothing as if your considering taking drugs or are taking drugs then it must be pretty bad depression.




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#18 10 years ago
the1chaos;4788836 If you really want the name of an illegal drug that would numb away depression (not cure, mind you - just numb it so you won't care), heroin would be the answer. Not any hallucinogenic.

Warning: Heroin is extremely addictive. In fact, you may become highly addicted with only one-time use.

Really, doing any illegal drug is stupid.

I believe those drugs are really illegal for one purpose: they have no medicinal benefits.

Believe it or not, methamphetamines are not 100% illegal because, taken correctly, it has a medicinal benefit. It's referred to as a controlled substance and can only strictly be obtained by prescription. Being caught with medicinal methamphetamines is the same as being caught with 100% illegal drugs and will most likely carry the same penalties. This goes for any controlled substance.

Sorry to go off-topic.

Like everyone is saying, your best bet is to go the medical route. It will not be an instant solution, but you will get better over time if you stick with it.

EDIT: I've had an anxiety disorder for 9 years and have been in treatment for if for 7 years. The last 2 lines I said above are not cliches or hollow truths, but backed by personal experience.




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Killer Kyle;4789357Warning: Heroin is extremely addictive. In fact, you may become highly addicted with only one-time use.

Really, doing any illegal drug is stupid.

I believe those drugs are really illegal for one purpose: they have no medicinal benefits.

Believe it or not, methamphetamines are not 100% illegal because, taken correctly, it has a medicinal benefit. It's referred to as a controlled substance and can only strictly be obtained by prescription. Being caught with medicinal methamphetamines is the same as being caught with 100% illegal drugs and will most likely carry the same penalties. This goes for any controlled substance.

Sorry to go off-topic.

Like everyone is saying, your best bet is to go the medical route. It will not be an instant solution, but you will get better over time if you stick with it.

EDIT: I've had an anxiety disorder for 9 years and have been in treatment for if for 7 years. The last 2 lines I said above are not cliches or hollow truths, but backed by personal experience.

With “naturally” occurring drugs, I don’t have a problem with them at all. Artificial man made drugs though, I do have a problem with those, methamphetamine for example. These drugs are very dangerous and can destroy lives very easily. Thankfully those types of drugs can be limited in such away that the “common” person wouldn’t be so apt to try and create it. They require more knowledge they say, planting a seed and watering. With marijuana, its simply too insidious and readily producible to ever fully stamp out completely. I don’t agree with imprisonment for the use of marijuana, peyote or mushroom at all. People being what they are, will always find a way, and when its that easy to access and create, the prohibition creates a self-defeating cause.

I also have to say I agree with Wilde when he said “Selfishness is not living as you wish to live, it is in asking others to live as you live.” Once it starts, where does it end? Are we to eventually illegalize magic markers as well because “some” choose to sniff them for an intoxicated feeling? What about poison? Why are there no laws limiting how much poison one can buy? Or how many 2,000 calorie burgers you can consume per week? Maybe every citizen should have a personal supervisor assigned to them, too protect themselves from themselves?

I say tax it like cigarettes, and penalize it’s abuse like they already due for alcohol. Not only will American prisons populations nearly drop to half of what they are, but the completely new economic market will assist in the economic crisis. It’s not like people are going to stop anyways. Not to mention, roughly 75% of the entire nations population has at one time or another smoked marijuana. Why put hundreds of thousands of people in prison for it?

As for the anxiety disorder you mentioned. Are you on Xanax or the more generic name of Alprazolam to alleviate it? It would come as no surprise to hear that you are, as its the most effective drug for treatment of that ailment. Which brings up an interesting question. What if Xanax was outlawed completely because the majority of people preferred to use it for entertainment over medical value? Wouldn't you be a little upset and disagreeable about that? The use of marijuana for medicinal purposes has been validated by various academia from around the globe for a long time now. It would be a mistake to apply your assumptions from what ever small world experiences you've have, and assert them as "the only" way. Until you've had cataracts, stomach cancer, chemotherapy, or otherwise terminally ill and actually tried it, I can't take you as any kind of authority on its medicinal values. I don' think anyone is qualified enough to determine what a dying or near death person can or can not do with their body, let alone put into it. It's seems asinine and counter productive to me.




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#20 10 years ago

Nope, don't take Xanax. It can become addictive and I'll actually have insomnia due to it. It also doesn't last long enough for me to be useful. I take Klonopin (Clonzepam) instead (which is also a controlled substance).

I'm sure recreational Xanax use exists but in a smaller form because it's the first thing you think of as an anxiety killer. Any psych. drug has recreational use problems, hence the controlling of it.

Yeah, I would be pissed if they outlawed Xanax (and similar drugs), but they would quickly realize that it's a mistake worse than outlawing marijuana as anxiety sufferers are going to have very bad days from now on and not like it (And they'll show it, too).

Yeah, marijuana may be considered to have medicinal use in other countries. That shows that there is no agreement on marijuana's benefits vs. negative effects; whether it's worth legalizing.

We can't forget about the recreational drugs here that are allowed, though one is obviously slowly being stamped out.