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themanclaw

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#1 10 years ago

I have a debate coming up for one of my classes, and I thought it would be a good idea to see what advice the people here could give.

I don't really think marijuana should be illegal, however that wasn't my choice so:

I'm looking for helpful arguments debate strategies and statistics, not for this thread to become the debate itself

Much appreciated.




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#2 10 years ago

Just search "Cannabis Awareness Project's" in google or something.

Or, visit: Raising awareness of the consequences of drug prohibition | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)

Personally. I believe the war on "drugs" specifically Cannabis, is a crock of shit, and a monumental waste of man power, money and time. America has 5% of the worlds populations, but 25% of the worlds prison population. The majority of people in prisons are not rapists and murders, they're casual pot smokers.

Some interesting quotes for ya:

No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed, and love of power. – P. J. O'Rourke (1992)

Every friend of freedom must be as revolted as I am by the prospect of turning the United States into an armed camp, by the vision of jails filled with casual drug users and of an army of enforcers empowered to invade the liberty of citizens on slight evidence. – Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize-winning economist

Alcohol didn't cause the high crime rates of the '20s and '30s, Prohibition did. And drugs do not cause today's alarming crime rates, but drug prohibition does. – US District Judge James C. Paine, addressing the Federal Bar Association in Miami, November, 1991

Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging than the drug itself. – Jimmy Carter

I favor free trade in drugs for the same reason the Founding Fathers favored free trade in ideas: in a free society it is none of the government's business what ideas a man puts into his mind; likewise, it should be none of its business what drugs he puts into his body. – Thomas Szasz

Opium and morphine are certainly dangerous, habit-forming drugs. But once the principle is admitted that it is the duty of the government to protect the individual against his own foolishness, no serious objections can be advanced against further encroachments … Is not the harm a man can inflict on his mind and soul even more disastrous than any bodily evils.? Why not prevent him from reading bad books and bad plays, from looking at bad paintings and statues and from hearing bad music? The mischief done by bad ideologies, surely, is much more pernicious both for the individual and for the whole society, than that done by narcotic drugs. – Von Mises, Human Action

The War on Drugs is a price support system for terrorists, drug pushers and opportunists. It turns ordinary, cheap plants like marijuana and poppies into fantastically lucrative black market products. Without the War on Drugs, the financial engine that fuels terrorist and government organizations would sputter to a halt. – Ron Crickenberger

Good luck in the search.




Crazy Wolf VIP Member

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#3 10 years ago

You can always use misleading statistics, talk about how many criminals use marijuana, explain that it dulls reflexes and about how darn psychoactive it is (bonus points for just stating it is psychoactive, then listing how many people are killed by psychoactive (read: all) drugs per year). Odds are if your opponent is any good, you'll lose no matter what, but those points should give you hope against a fool.




colonel_bob

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#4 10 years ago

Talk about how you can never test for it in the case of impaired drivers (like the Brethalyzer for DWI). Ugh. I hate debating for this side.




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#5 10 years ago

Yeah, you've got the wrong side.

You can use recent research saying (chronically*) heavy use is damaging to the brain's development and memory-rentention and that smoking it is harmful to the lungs (though it's the smoke, rather than the cannabis itself, be careful there).

Other than that (and driving under influence) there's not much you can argue on.

*The research's definition of chronic was upwards of 50 joints a day, averaging around 70-80 joints a day for damage to really occur. That's a monumental amount of cannabis.




themanclaw

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#6 10 years ago

I've got enough shit saying that weed is bad for you, right now I'm looking more along the legal aspects of it, like statistics in countries that had it legalized, I only ask you because many live in the Netherlands, so they might have first hand experience of some of the downsides to legalization.




colonel_bob

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#7 10 years ago
themanclaw;4371888I've got enough shit saying that weed is bad for you, right now I'm looking more along the legal aspects of it, like statistics in countries that had it legalized, I only ask you because many live in the Netherlands, so they might have first hand experience of some of the downsides to legalization.

The problem with that, though, is that there really isn't... Drug use in the Netherlands actually went down (if I remember correctly) with their legalization. All they really have to worry about as far as I know are all the stoned tourists that keep on visiting.




Karst

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#8 10 years ago

themanclaw;4371888I've got enough shit saying that weed is bad for you, right now I'm looking more along the legal aspects of it, like statistics in countries that had it legalized, I only ask you because many live in the Netherlands, so they might have first hand experience of some of the downsides to legalization.[/quote]

[quote=colonel_bob;4372773]The problem with that, though, is that there really isn't... Drug use in the Netherlands actually went down (if I remember correctly) with their legalization. All they really have to worry about as far as I know are all the stoned tourists that keep on visiting.

That. While it can still be explained to some extent that inhaling any sort of smoke is bad for your lungs, that factor becomes irrelevant considering the legality of tobacco. And the legal viewpoint....well, there just isn't anything on "your" side here. Legalization reduces usage of more dangerous drugs, and brings in billions in taxes.




Rich19

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#9 10 years ago

The main reason I've heard is that it is all too easy to get into other more dangerous drugs though marijuana use. Although you might want to be careful using that argument, as it could easily be said that the very reason this is the case is that, because of it's illegality, the dealers are all the type of people that would try to get you hooked on other drugs.




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#10 10 years ago
themanclaw;4371888I've got enough shit saying that weed is bad for you, right now I'm looking more along the legal aspects of it, like statistics in countries that had it legalized, I only ask you because many live in the Netherlands, so they might have first hand experience of some of the downsides to legalization.

The only downside that I can think of is stupid tourists that come here to use drugs without having a clue about it whatsoever and them not bothering to get information on how to use them properly. Which has led to the odd drug tourist or so ending up dead (jumping out of window, off a bridge etc.).

Can't think of any other downsides to be honest. If people read up on how to handle drugs and use them with moderation there isn't a lot that can go wrong.

And no, I never did softdrugs or hard drugs myself. Smoking, pot, weed or whatever else you can think if, it's not my thing.