The Honduran army removed the nation's democratically elected president Manuel Zelaya from power after the president started to look into removing term limits. What role, if any, should the US play in the situation?
Some details: Both sides are reaching out to the US for support. Zelaya has been a supporter of Venzuela's Chavez and a critic of the US. US has ong history of intervention in Latin America.
Point and laugh. So this turd biscuit decides to try his own version of a 'Bolivarian Revolution' and gets his ass couped for it. I dont see why the US would intervene since its a case of the Honduran military preserving its own constitution.
Chavez has threatened to reinstate the former President by force.
IIRC the President was ousted days before a new election was to be held.
[COLOR=black]Obama denounced the coup…wait, what!? Why the f’ck would Obama encourage a president to change its democratic constitution to a lesser one by removal of term limits and stand behind Venezuela and Cuba’s leaders in denouncing the coup? Oh I love it...It makes perfect sense to me now why Obama is wanting to get closer to Cuba by removing embargos and inviting Castro to the White House (which he refused, by the way) and recently returned from rubbing dicks with Hugo, and wants this new cap and trade bill passed by the Senate...which the Senate has put off until this Fall. Congress hastily passed this bill, because of the feel good “new energy” aspect of it, but 300 + pages were added by the Administration hours before Congress was to vote on the bill. Many of those additions will give the President "emergency powers" to override the legislative and judicial branches at will...Congress already made themselves irrelevant by passing the bill, now lets hope between then and now the Senate takes a closure look (which is part of reason the US Senate told the Obama Administration to basically back the f'ck off so they can read it cover to cover...to the adamant discontent of Obama). Absolute power corrupts, absolutely. Be weary. Things are changing all right. Good for the Honduran people. Obama needs to step lightly, because this nation is waking up from its election stupor and starting to ask those questions of why. We are watching Mr. President.... we are watching.[/COLOR]
Obama made a statement basically saying that since Zelaya was democratically elected it was wrong for the army to remove him. On the other side, Zelaya was pushing a referendum to vote on changing term limits and he fired people that were opposed to the referendum. The Honduran Justice system decided that what Zelaya was doing was unconstitutional.
So on one side there's a leader elected by the people, that's removed by the army. On the other side that same elected leader was doing things that were unconstitutional, according to the court. Was it right for the army to force him out and replace him with someone who wasn't elected by the people?
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26th May 2003
AlDaja;4941993Obama needs to step lightly, because this nation is waking up from its election stupor and starting to ask those questions of why. We are watching Mr. President.... we are watching.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
:lol: I love all these threats people make to the president when they're ensconced in their comfortable lives. Sure you’re all eager now, when talk is cheap, but then you’ll look around to see who’s going to go first; and there’ll be this kind of nasty pause before the next episode of Survivor comes on. And soon enough it just becomes how things are done.
[COLOR=black]Again, it shows our presidents ignorance and lack of understanding of our own democratically elected leaders. Honduras’s constitution mirrors ours in many ways – including the use of military force to remove elected leaders who arbitrarily attempt to forgo the removal of constitutional laws without representation or authorization of the people to retain an office…which is one of the reason Obama wants this cap and trade bill of his passed so badly. [/COLOR]
Nemmerle;4942020:lol: I love all these threats people make to the president when they're ensconced in their comfortable lives. Sure you’re all eager now, when talk is cheap, but then you’ll look around to see who’s going to go first; and there’ll be this kind of nasty pause before the next episode of Survivor comes on. And soon enough it just becomes how things are done.
Don't mock me dude - If push comes to shove I'll do my part to ensure this nation and her people retain what our founding fathers ask of us - so with respect - shut the fuck up, you don't know me and you don't know those; many of whom are in our armed forces, who will do what is necessary - despite orders to uphold the oath they took, as do many of her citizens. We make change through peaceful elections, but if that fails then we will take up arms if it happens to come to that, just like the Honduras people did...or is that not clear.
to be honest, i fail to see how it affects the USA. the largest threat in latin/south america is venezuela and chavez, and due to embargoes, they have no impact on the US economy, and are unable to do much. at the most, his support of tyrannies like iran is of threat, but he's not exactly going to invade the USA. he's a political threat. nothing else. besides, i don't see any form of true socialism (not obama... he's not fully socialist. he's just being pragmatic, like FDR...) settling in the USA, in honesty.
What role, if any, should the US play in the situation?
None, it's their country, if the army didn't agree with it, they wouldn't have followed orders.
From what I've read this is exactly how a democratic government is supposed to function. The supreme court of the country ruled that in accordance with their constitution the president was require to relinquish his office. He wouldn't, so the army made him.
Perhaps this "new" government has done some questionable things after taking office, but the way in which they took office was justified.