How do you 'prove' America is right-wing? 39 replies

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Exploder

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#1 10 years ago

Most people that understand politics say that the US in general is more right-wing than the rest of the world and that there are few real left-wingers in the US. But how do you actually 'prove' this claim?

And don't just post a political compass chart, I'd like an answer in words.




Strelok16

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#2 10 years ago

Well Im not sure I quite get what you mean by that, but what I keep hearing is, what most people would consider to be liberal views here in the US would be considered moderate in most other places, and what we consider to be just conservative would be considered ultaconservative or nationalist elsewhere. Views that are considered liberal by most of the world, are hardly even taken seriously here, except in certain places.




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#3 10 years ago

It has something to do with the american political orientation, strong ties to promoting traditional values trough politics, a very grim outlook on social securities, the calling of policies that are moderate commie, and countless other little and large things.




Karst

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#4 10 years ago

-First and foremost: their unwavering belief in in the capitalist/free market system. No where else in the world, except maybe Japan, do you have such a one-sided opinion of economics. Where elsewhere Socialist parties are the mainstream center-left party, in the US "socialist" is basically an insult, considered contrary to American ideals. -Their view of the military as the guardian of the American way and the protector of American interests abroad. There are few other countries where the military is held in such high respect. And, on the technical side, the absolutely astronomical defense budget. No other country comes even slightly near what the US government spends on their military every year. -Their generally more socially conservative views compared particularly to Europe. Especially outside of the cities and areas like San Francisco, a visiting European might believe they are back in the 1950's. The concept of a strong family and extreme protectionism of children and teenagers is very reminiscent of what elsewhere disappeared or declined in the last decades. Also, their infamous attitude towards sex which can only be described as extremely conservative compared to Europe. -Their lack of an actual left-wing political party. While it's not uncommon elsewhere that there are only two major parties, one of these is generally center-left and the other center-right, while in the US you have a right-progressive and a right-conservative party, both definitely to the right of most European centrist parties. Aside from that they have to deal with the obvious limitations of the two-party system, which prevents any kind of alternative party from gaining any power. -Their strict criminal laws, particularly concerning drugs. Long jail sentences for marijuana possession are something generally unheard of in Europe, and of course there is the issue of the death penalty which is only practiced at any sort of significant level in the United States, Saudi Arabia, and China, and when you look at the general rights situations in the other two countries, you can understand what sort of associations are made by most of the rest of the world. -The large base of extremely conservative, ultra-religious groups. Nowhere else in the developed world do you have such a concentration of extremely old fashioned, unbelievably stupid Christian fanatics. A bible camp teacher telling children that Harry Potter is a warlock and deserves to die, is something most Europeans couldn't possibly imagine existing outside of ultra-religious third world countries.

That's a few.




liddlemonkey

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#5 10 years ago

I was typing this while Karst was posting so I didn't see that - but basically what he said :p

Essentially you can't exactly "prove" that the US is a right-wing nation as the criteria for judging right and left isn't fixed and varies massively from country to country and one group/party/state is not representative of the entire country; but the majority of their laws, rules and regulations are right leaning by western standards.

Still an awesome place to visit and the people are, on the whole, decent people.




Relander

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#6 10 years ago

Karst pretty much summed it up. I add few points more:

- Strong faith and trust on an individual & enterpreunership

- Clearly negative attitude towards taxation

- Strong emphasis on security issues like funding of police, border security etc.




Rich19

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#7 10 years ago

I've got another one:

- The gun laws. With only a few exceptions, guns are more freely available than in any western country.




Karst

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#8 10 years ago

Rich19;4405343I've got another one:

- The gun laws. With only a few exceptions, guns are more freely available than in any western country.

In fact, the United States has the highest concentration of guns per capita of the entire world, not just the west. Second place is Yemen and third is Finland.




AlDaja

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#9 10 years ago
Strelok16;4405209Well Im not sure I quite get what you mean by that, but what I keep hearing is, what most people would consider to be liberal views here in the US would be considered moderate in most other places, and what we consider to be just conservative would be considered ultaconservative or nationalist elsewhere. Views that are considered liberal by most of the world, are hardly even taken seriously here, except in certain places.

Yeah...something like that. Grouping a culture is dangerous and leads to misconceptions, especially in the case of world dynamics. From reading the posts here, it seems the more contemptuous members just need to feel good about themselves…now if we can just work on the chip-on-the-shoulder. Face it folks…America is unique, obviously compared to Europe we are two different cultures with different ambitions, different goals, different way of doing things. How has this changed? Been this way since day one. Europe sees America as lowbrow heathens and America sees Europe as uptight snobbish drones – hello, not true on either account, but apparently another generation intends on further the game - whatever. :redx:




GreatGrizzly

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#10 10 years ago

I dont think that can be proved. Aspects of a society cant really be proven by writing of numbers. It has to be observed.

It is observed that america is extremely right wing. Even our "left" probably falls into the rightist area.