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Penguin_Unit

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#1 10 years ago

I am not here to debate myself or my beliefs. Neither am I here to bash any candidates, and therefore I request that nobody give me negative reputation. I simply ask that you look at this and see what Barack Hussein Obama is doing. I will now quote:

WikiepediaOn the role of government in economic affairs, Obama has written: "We should be asking ourselves what mix of policies will lead to a dynamic free market and widespread economic security, entrepreneurial innovation and upward mobility [...] we should be guided by what works." Speaking before the National Press Club in April 2005, he defended the New Deal social welfare policies of Franklin D. Roosevelt, associating Republican proposals to establish private accounts for Social Security with social Darwinism. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Obama spoke out against government indifference to growing economic class divisions, calling on both political parties to take action to restore the Social Security Net for the poor. Shortly before announcing his presidential campaign, Obama told the health care advocacy group Families USA that he supports universal healthcare in the United States.[/quote] I am all for improving our system. However, FDR's New Deal program was not effective, and it prolonged the Great Depression. He is supporting something that helped us to go even deeper. Social Darwinism draws partly from the practice of Eugenics. If anyone has been paying attention, Eugenics basically is an evolutionary idea that supports the elimination of "inferior" peoples. It is used to "further" evolution and is thought to "improve" the human species. That's Hitler in a nutshell. Contrary to popular belief, there are relatively few "poor" people in the United States, and, as with California where I live, almost none at all. The ones that are poor seem to be there for non-economic reasons, such as drug abuse which sent their money down the toilet. Obama can't really help that, because it's not the government's fault people choose to take drugs and chip away at their savings. The safety net isn't a good idea, because if I am indeed correct about the drug problems, money will essentially be ripped out of my wallet by the state to pay these people that should have known better. What does this seemingly imply? In '05, Obama was supporting Social Darwinism, which is for Eugenics, and that is for the elimination of the "inferior". Please tell me, why is everyone voting for him? Another quote from the same article tells us this: [quote=Wikiepedia]Obama was an early opponent of the Bush administration's policies on Iraq. On October 2, 2002, the day President Bush and Congress agreed on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, Obama addressed the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq War rally in Federal Plaza, speaking out against the war. On March 16, 2003, the day President Bush issued his 48-hour ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to leave Iraq before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Obama addressed the largest Chicago anti-Iraq War rally to date in Daley Plaza and told the crowd "It's not too late" to stop the war.

This is before we even did anything. Almost all of Congress approved of the war, and now they want us out when we haven't finished. Some people would like to say that Iraq had no WMDs, and they stopped in '91. I don't know about the '91 thing, but they most definitely had WMDs. Take for example the British, German, and Russian intelligence. They confirmed such before the invasion even began. One thing you won't hear about in the news is, just prior to the invasion, how they spotted the loaded trucks leaving Iraq for Syria. What do you think was on those trucks? I suspect something nasty...must I say it? Another thing you won't hear is that they did discover Saddam was sleeping with al-Queda. That's reason enough to invade. Of course, the liberal media opposes anything worth hearing and won't do anything to make Bush actually look like he knew what he was doing... One last thing. Obama says he wants to stop our missle defense tests. Is it me, or does that sound incredibly stupid? Let's see. There's multiple Communist nations to the east of us, many of which have nuclear capabilities, and are either indifferent or hostile towards us. Let's disable our defenses and play some Russian Roulette. We may or may not get nuked overnight. Talking with the enemy doesn't usually help. It only delays the inevitable, especially with Iran, which has indeed not halted enrichment or anything related to nuclear weapons, despite the fact that everyone's been trying to talk them out of it. Now, I don't want to be negged, but look at what I've said here. Does something seem a bit...wrong...with this fellow? I'm not even talking about policies or whether he's a marxist or not. I find this horribly disturbing.




The Fat Controller

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#2 10 years ago

In terms of relative poverty, the US is one of the worst performers for a developed country. Also, in absolute terms, about 12.6% of people living in the US are considered to be;

"lacking the resources to meet the basic needs for healthy living; having insufficient income to provide the food, shelter and clothing needed to preserve health".

This is fact. In light of this, I think the way you imply that the poor are layabout drug addicts is despicable.




GuineaPig

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#3 10 years ago

Where does it say that Obama supports social darwinism? He compared Republican proposals to social darwinism. And social darwinism isn't eugenics. You have no clue what it is. As for poverty, more there are an incredible number of poor people in the States compared to other developed countries. And that number has increased by over 4 million during Bush's presidency. And don't start with the Iraq bull again. Give one credible source to back up your claims. Iraq and Al Quaeda are enemies.




Buddy Jesus

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#4 10 years ago
Penguin_Unit;4374588 Now, I don't want to be negged, but look at what I've said here. Does something seem a bit...wrong...with this fellow? I'm not even talking about policies or whether he's a marxist or not. I find this horribly disturbing.

Hell of course it's disturbing, what we have is an individual running for president whose track record, what tini tiny one he does have, is one of the most liberal and partisian, in all of the U.S. Senate. The media thus far has givin Obama a relitively free pass when it comes to his Church and even more alarmingly his convictions and true beliefes on some of the issues raised in what he believed from his pastor's speeches. Most alarming to me is that fact that Mr. Obama has failed to outline a true plan of action fo the U.S. in the case of his election short of getting out of the war, and initiating in direct talks with Iran and Syria. Which by the way he has sence recanted as even he realized what a catostrophic failure they would turn out to be. Alright Mr. Obama now what? We can only hope this question will be asked by the American people sinceit is not being asked by the press. The press however have latched on to his image of "change" and "hope". Besides who in their right mind can be against change and hope. I mean hell, If being for change and hope and nice happy-go-lucky rehtoric is all you need to win the nomination for president I'm thinking about running on the "change" platform also, besides experience is overrated and definate and concrete plans are for squares. So come America let's fly by the seat of our pants because that's "Change we can believe in."




Day_Man

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#5 10 years ago

I'm moving to Europe.




wjlaslo

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#6 10 years ago
Penguin_Unit;4374588Now, I don't want to be negged, but look at what I've said here. Does something seem a bit...wrong...with this fellow?

Put simply... No. The fact that you mentioned reputation at all REALLY makes me want to give some negative to you, but I'm trying to hold myself back...




Cap'n Rommel

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#7 10 years ago

to the nuke thing:

The whole point of nuclear weapons and development is not to use it.. its to show off power, and prevent other from using it. North Korea dont have the balls to nuke anyone, because they would be nuked themselves.

Thats the reason why the cold war lasted a good 50 years




Ipse

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#8 10 years ago
and therefore I request that nobody give me negative reputation. I simply ask that you look at this and see what Barack Hussein Obama is doing

Still attached to your number eh?




N88TR

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#9 10 years ago

And still attached to using his controversial middle name. Didn't he change it once he started to run?




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#10 10 years ago

If you are horrified about Obama increasing the government, why haven't you said a peep about our own president? Lets count the neo-con bullshit things he has done that goes against traditional conservative values:

*He starts a war that costs this nation billions of dollars. *He increases the size of the government by adding homeland security, the patriot act, and the military commissions act. *He supports a government sponsored war on drugs that incarcerates many people needlessly for possession. *He uses religion and polarizing issues to sway the public instead of economic ones.

Dubya has increased the size of the government, stuck his nose in our privacy, tells people what they can/cannot put in their body, and has spent like mad. If you are going to knock down Obama for supporting government expansion, you sure as hell better knock down our commander in chief.