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Aeroflot

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#1 11 years ago

I used to think religion was a bunch of crap, and only retards followed it. I even convinced myself that people with religious beliefs had a lower IQ. If I ever saw one of those programs on television, the ones in which a girl would survive a bad fire and find God, I would pull my hypothetical .45 and hypothetically shoot her in her hypothetical head. Then, all that crap about people getting holes in their hands and calling it some sort of blessing... whatever.

Even though some religions are incredibly stupid (think of the South Park episode with Joseph Smith and the Mormons), we need to follow them, because if we don't, then society will vanishand we'll become stuck up like the girls at my college. Religion is what creates order, what keeps people in check, and prevents people from becoming hippie, stoner, skank, dousches (yeah, I put a lot of effort into that one).

Yeah, I know there will be a couple (more like a bunch ) of people posting stuff like "Well, I think you're wrong. Religion is for nutjobs." Well, that's awesome, but you're wrong, and, in fact, you couldn't be further from the truth. Religion is what is going to hold this world together. Even if the religion is more of a philosophy, like Buddhism, it will be better than nothing (not that I'm implying Buddhism is not up to par with Islam, Judaism, etc.).

Too many people today are turning into atheists, because they think they're some sort of rebel punk rockers. What I have to say to these people: grow up. I know for a fact that a bunch of you members who are going to read this are exactly how I described. Some of you don't think you're rebels, but you are. You might think that you're just too smart and that religion doesn't make any sense, but you will learn in the future...

Yeah, I know I sound all high-and-mighty, but I just got done reading Maddox, so that is what it'll do to ya.

I'm awaiting your criticism (not that I'll read half of it).




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#2 11 years ago

It has been said for a long time that religion is what ultimately holds society together, and that is the truth. Yes religion can also at times be abusive or violent but for the most part it teaches modesty, self discipline, fortitude, and community participation which are all direly needed in today's society.




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#3 11 years ago

Religion keeps us in line, but it is not the only tool. If reason and logic work well enough, we don't need a vengeful sky-dwelling omnipotent being to keep us in line.

You think people turn atheist because they want to be "rebel punk rockers"? If anyone turns atheist, its the engineers. I demand proof before putting my existence/life/"afterlife" into the hands of a bunch of people who are not known for their consistency or honesty.




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#4 11 years ago
Too many people today are turning into atheists, because they think they're some sort of rebel punk rockers. What I have to say to these people: grow up. I know for a fact that a bunch of you members who are going to read this are exactly how I described. Some of you don't think you're rebels, but you are. You might think that you're just too smart and that religion doesn't make any sense, but you will learn in the future...

lol i actually catch myself doing that sometimes...

The thing is, though religion does create some order due to fear of a greater being and whatnot, the converse (inverse?) doesn't follow. Religion creates order, but order is not always created by religion. Religion has in the past held the world together, but it doesn't always have to be that way. People can change.




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#5 11 years ago

BladeV2;3555481lol i actually catch myself doing that sometimes...

The thing is, though religion does create some order due to fear of a greater being and whatnot, the converse (inverse?) doesn't follow. Religion creates order, but order is not always created by religion. Religion has in the past held the world together, but it doesn't always have to be that way. People can change.

People are changing... into druggy (insert words which describe people these days).

Religion is useful not just because it creates order, but also because it gives people hope, and meaning to their life. Poeple tend to just "exist" if they do not believe in a religion.




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#6 11 years ago

So, atheists do not normally have meaning in their life? None of them devote themselves to serving the greater good, or finding new questions to ask?




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#7 11 years ago
Crazy Wolf;3555493So, atheists do not normally have meaning in their life? None of them devote themselves to serving the greater good, or finding new questions to ask?

Sure they do, but they have nothing to look forward as the years go by. What makes them want to be good? What are the rewards? What happens after you die?

Remember, I was an atheist once upon a time. I know about this stuff...




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#8 11 years ago

Aeroflotte;3555488People are changing... into druggy (insert words which describe people these days).

Religion is useful not just because it creates order, but also because it gives people hope, and meaning to their life. Poeple tend to just "exist" if they do not believe in a religion.

That's true to, but still its not the sole mechanism to achieve hope and meaning. Tons of atheists find meaning and hope without religion. Religion serves as a conduit to direct people, but if one could direct oneself in the right direction, the need for religion diminishes.

Furthermore, an individual's rejection of religion doesn't transcend into "bringing down society."

Come to think of it, I think it might be morality, rather than religion that binds the world and creates order rather than religion. Religion is simply a strong force that promotes morals. And the rest can be solved by a Heiddegarian questioning of one's ontology... (yeah i have no clue what that means either)




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#9 11 years ago

Despite what religious leaders everywhere say, religion is not the glue that holds society together. Money is.

I'm glade you found religion. Thats great for you. I'm not religious; I'm a deist. Despite not being religious i am none of these things you described non religion people as being. I am not a "hippie, stoner, skank, or dousch."

I think religion brainwashes people into believing that they aren't alone in the world. Believing that there is a god out there watching after everyone makes life real easy. Everything that happens to you is all a means to an end. Eventually if your a "good" person who follows the rules life will eventually turn roses.

I don't need some magic philosophy to tell me how to live life. My parents taught me common sense and morals. I live life according to what I think is right. Everything else is bafflegab.




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#10 11 years ago

Religion must be the force keeping things together; I mean, without it, what else would the billions of people over the years who were killed over it be left to do?