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Μαjïç MushrøøM

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#11 14 years ago

:agreed I will be attracted to none other than an athiest, like myself, in that regard.




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#12 14 years ago

Umm, so you just decide that you are going to make a religion..... Most religions are based off of the fact that they are inspired by some kind of God or angelic messenger, but you decide to just create a god. Is this God the God of the monotheistic religions? Is it one of the eastern Gods? Did you just make up this God? How has this God shown himself to you? You just created a good-for-all religion where bad deeds are punished lightly, but where is your basis for recruitment, besides the fact that there is no hell. I see no inspiration for this religion, which makes it really weird to suggest it. I would be more inclined to consider this religion if you started out with, "God came to me and said", but then again you would seem to be a wacko.




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#13 14 years ago

arent there are already enough relegions? lol




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#14 14 years ago
NapalmMost religions are based off of the fact that they are inspired by some kind of God or angelic messenger, but you decide to just create a god. Is this God the God of the monotheistic religions? Is it one of the eastern Gods? Did you just make up this God? How has this God shown himself to you?

Given what he's named it, I was wondering whether it was based off a certain Ancient Egyptian Kemetic god... I wonder if that's just a coincidence though.




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#15 14 years ago

Most religions are based off of the fact that they are inspired by some kind of God or angelic messenger, but you decide to just create a god. I didn't just make up this God...this God always existed. Just because ideas about God change doesn't mean that God himself changes. Is this God the God of the monotheistic religions? Short answer: yes. You just created a good-for-all religion where bad deeds are punished lightly... Bad deeds aren't punished at all! At least not in a meaningful way. I see no inspiration for this religion, which makes it really weird to suggest it. I would be more inclined to consider this religion if you started out with, "God came to me and said", but then again you would seem to be a wacko. What makes you think that God didn't give me the idea? If it weren't for God, I wouldn't have had the idea, nor would I have existed! What makes you think that all of the Holy Scripture of history, such as Jesus being resurrected, or Muhammad receiving the Qur'an, is any more real than what I have to say?




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#16 14 years ago

Given what he's named it, I was wondering whether it was based off a certain Ancient Egyptian Kemetic god... I wonder if that's just a coincidence though. Yes, I do know what you're referring to...the cult religion of Tutankhamen and Amen-Ra and all that. But this is mostly a coincidence. I had thought of the word Amen because it was a universally accepted "holy word." If anyone has any better ideas for a name, I'm all ears.




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#17 14 years ago

This is the rationale behind a God that does not punish: God exists. God makes it possible for us to love him/her. Humans cannot love that which they fear. Humans fear that which brings punishments. If God brings punishments, then humans fear God. If humans fear God, love of God is impossible. But this violates the premise that "God makes it possible for us to love him/her." Therefore, a God that brings punishments does not exist. Now, most of you probably picked up on the premise "Humans cannot love that which they fear" and probably disagree with it. So, I will go into more detail. By "love," I mean "love truly." Ask yourself, can you truly love someone out of fear? The answer is no. But can you truly love someone when the love is not caused by the fear, but the fear still exists anyway? No, because you never know whether you're safe: even if you do try to love someone, you never know whether you have tried to love that person enough to keep them from punishing you. Nor do you know whether it's even possible to avoid punishment, no matter how much you try love that person. You can only truly love a God that you can trust.




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#18 14 years ago

You are nuts schultz.




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#19 14 years ago
Cataphractsee your point why you included this, but you should be aware what kind of followers you will attract to your religion like this. Hopefully, I will attract many atheists, agnostics, and other people that would otherwise not have believed in a Supreme Being because of the negative connotations of religion. Sooner or later the followers of your religion who understood you the right way will be scared away by the more violent elements and your religion turns into an anarchic cult :) Do the followers of Christianity all get scared away because of, for example, the Crusades? Do the followers of Islam all get scared away because of, for example, 9/11? Any devout follower is likely to stay devout unless some force from outside the system changes his mind.

I think atheists don't believe on God because they simply don't believe that there is something like an afterlife or some kind of mystical power. So they still won't believe in your God.

I was talking about forces from outside your system. People who think the "no punishment"-idea is great and who will use force to get rid of the elements in your religion they don't like.

How do you want to avoid anarchy if you say that your God doesn't punish? If there is no punishment people won't take laws seriously. You should think twice before you create a religion that allows people to say "well, my religion has this guideline that you shouldn't kill people. But God doesn't really care, so why shouldn't I eat a baby for breakfast? Because it's wrong? Well, God doesn't seem to think so!".




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#20 14 years ago

I think atheists don't believe on God because they simply don't believe that there is something like an afterlife or some kind of mystical power. So they still won't believe in your God. Most atheists are as you say. But some atheists find the idea of a God appealing, but see all the religions in the world, and all of the bad things that have been done in the name of God, and think it's all a hoax. So they refuse to believe in God. How do you want to avoid anarchy if you say that your God doesn't punish? If there is no punishment people won't take laws seriously. You should think twice before you create a religion that allows people to say "well, my religion has this guideline that you shouldn't kill people. But God doesn't really care, so why shouldn't I eat a baby for breakfast? Because it's wrong? Well, God doesn't seem to think so!". God does care! But he/she will not punish. Humans will though. I make no pretense of founding a theocracy based on this religion. I believe that theocracy is not good. Eating a baby will always be seen as wrong in society's eyes, and society will punish a person for eating babies regardless. You're focusing too much on the negative "what could go wrong" aspect of it. Wouldn't people respect God more if he/she didn't punish them? When you think about it, you should love God and obey his/her will regardless of whether he/she punishes you. If God is all-loving, then how can you possibly be, say, banished to Hell for eternity? Indeed, "all-loving" implies "all-merciful." Who's to say that God doesn't just let everyone off?