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Shintsu

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#1 11 years ago

I think there may be a story at CNN or something, but I just flipped on CNN Headline News and I saw the story. Basically, a million or more illegal immigrants are marching (Dunno where I didn't catch that, but they were on an overpass) and demanding legal citizenship. Is there not some way we can just send all these protesters back to their countries? If they're all gathered up, they've just about done all the work for us.

In any case, I don't see what they hope to achieve. Marches and whatnot will never sway Congress and especially not American citizens to want to give these illegal immigrants citizenship. Quite the opposite, it makes me enraged and intolerant of any illegal immigrants. They should have to earn their citizenship like everyone else who legally becomes a citizen, not just come here illegally and say "I want rights, I deserve them, this is the land of the free! Let me be a citizen for doing nothing!"

Maybe I'm behind in the times, but hell no, get out of our country or become a legal citizen the way everyone else has to if you want to complain about our country. Or maybe, they could just go back to their little backwater country, and shut up. We must do something to stop these ignorant protesters, either as a country or ourselves.




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#2 11 years ago

Yeah...whatelse is new...they did the same thing last year? or was it a few years ago. I don't really know what all the bitching is...they (primarily Mexican's) pretty much have both sides of the political isle in the bag and for the most part have full access to social services even though the law says otherwise...it all comes down to the voting booth and to which side our "guests" will elect into power. Yeah, they are not suppose to beable to vote either but they do. No wonder immigrants from other parts of the world who get no special considerations from our government have such animosity for these people - hell, even American citizens get a back seat on ocassion to "accommodate" our friends from the south. An example: I had the city come by and inform me that I needed to cut the weeds down in front of my house...I told them I would get to it, but while we were on the subject how about the house three doors down who's weeds are reaching up to their porch...the lady calmly said, "well, they don't speek English very well, but I'll inform them." What-the-hell-ever. Already in a shitty mood because of the heat I flatly told her, "It's because I'm White, isn't it?" I haven't seen the lady in two weeks...an I have yet to take care of the weeds...maybe tomorrow.




Deanoz

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#3 11 years ago

If you are referring to a Mexican population, many portions of what was their land about 150 years ago was lost in what Ulysses S. Grant proclaimed the most unjust war waged by a stronger nation on a weaker nation. It was U.S. citizens that traveled into these same lands inhabited and claimed by Mexico, and established permanent residence and centers. These Americans had the same 'complaints' about independence, freedom, and citizenship that these illegal immigrants have now.

The land was eventually taken by force, established as its own republic, and then attained statehood within the U.S. shortly after. It's funny how history repeats itself, and it's rather hypocritical. Atleast these people marching are making their intentions clear(which is to simply have citizenship in the U.S.) in a peaceful manner as opposed to waging war over land.

As for the legality of the issue, we conquered the land and we've owned it for some time now. I agree that in order for the U.S. to maintain an acceptable amount of integrity within the population, and the citizenship process, things need to be done carefully, with everything taken into account. This has a lot of potential economic side-effects as well.




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#4 11 years ago
Deanoz;3655572If you are referring to a Mexican population, many portions of what was their land about 150 years ago was lost in what Ulysses S. Grant proclaimed the most unjust war waged by a stronger nation on a weaker nation. It was U.S. citizens that traveled into these same lands inhabited and claimed by Mexico, and established permanent residence and centers. These Americans had the same 'complaints' about independence, freedom, and citizenship that these illegal immigrants have now. The land was eventually taken by force, established as its own republic, and then attained statehood within the U.S. shortly after. It's funny how history repeats itself, and it's rather hypocritical. Atleast these people marching are making their intentions clear(which is to simply have citizenship in the U.S.) in a peaceful manner as opposed to waging war over land. As for the legality of the issue, we conquered the land and we've owned it for some time now. I agree that in order for the U.S. to maintain an acceptable amount of integrity within the population, and the citizenship process, things need to be done carefully, with everything taken into account. This has a lot of potential economic side-effects as well.

Well, we’ve all read the history books…man has been bending over man for centuries. The Mexican populations are not going to just uproot themselves and leave…they never actually left. Many families living in this country date back to the seizure and purchases of land from Mexico by the US, so Hispanic/Central American peoples were already here. The problem facing us since about the mid 80’s is the influx or imbalance of peoples flooding into this country from Mexico (primarily) and it is causing an economic and social backlash that is taxing the generosity of Americans and causing dislike amongst other immigrants who feel Spanish Speaking peoples are get preferential treatment by Uncle Sam. Many of these folks are hardworking people who just what to make a living and escape the strife from the corrupt democracy in Mexico – unfortunately because of our current policies (offering amnesty is not the answer either…we did that in 1986 and it made things worse) as it relates to immigration; it also opens up the floodgates for elements of society neither country is prepared (obviously) to deal with. Closing the door a bit and keeping tabs on who is coming and who is going will put everyone’s mind at ease and allow people…to adjust.




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#5 11 years ago

I just saw this on the news a few hours ago, they say it was around Los Angeles or somewhere I believe. And yes, he's correct, it was a million. These immigrants have been doing this for the last 5 years or so, and they've been doing this to get the government's attention to receive their rights and citizenships. I dont understand this when they can "legally" come into the States without hassle. Even with no money, you can still survive in the States. My vote here is on neither side.




Artie Bucco

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#6 11 years ago
InfantryDivision;3655605I just saw this on the news a few hours ago, they say it was around Los Angeles or somewhere I believe. And yes, he's correct, it was a million. These immigrants have been doing this for the last 5 years or so, and they've been doing this to get the government's attention to receive their rights and citizenships. I dont understand this when they can "legally" come into the States without hassle. Even with no money, you can still survive in the States. My vote here is on neither side.

The protests have only happened for two years. I know i might be accused of playing the race card but i don't care. A lot of the anti-immigrant sentiment isn't that much based on anti-immigration feelings but rather the changes in demographics. Many people are angry because a bunch of immigrants are now openly in their neighborhood. For example, some guy might get pissed because the businesses change and cater to immigrants or they here spanish on the radio.

I recommend reading that article Orange County Weekly - The Anti-Immigrant All-Stars




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#7 11 years ago

Deanoz;3655572If you are referring to a Mexican population, many portions of what was their land about 150 years ago was lost in what Ulysses S. Grant proclaimed the most unjust war waged by a stronger nation on a weaker nation. It was U.S. citizens that traveled into these same lands inhabited and claimed by Mexico, and established permanent residence and centers. These Americans had the same 'complaints' about independence, freedom, and citizenship that these illegal immigrants have now.

The land was eventually taken by force, established as its own republic, and then attained statehood within the U.S. shortly after. It's funny how history repeats itself, and it's rather hypocritical. Atleast these people marching are making their intentions clear(which is to simply have citizenship in the U.S.) in a peaceful manner as opposed to waging war over land.

Less than 1% of the population of Mexico even lived in the territory given to the U.S.A. after the Mexican American War by means of a treaty. Mexicans who wished to stay were given American citizenship. Further, Texas declared independence from Mexico as a result of what they viewed as unfair treatment from the Mexican Government in which they were a part of. Texas was added to the Union with engagements with Mexico still taking place. This is a direct result of the breach of treaty that Santa Ana signed recognizing Texa's Independence in 1836. Further when Texas was entered into the Union the U.S.A. did so on the basis of the establishe boundary that Texas had already established when Santa Ana originally signed the first treaty. The Mexican Government refused to accept the given boundary and violated it, with the end result being the Mexican American War. It's not a matter of history repeating itself. Not even close.




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#8 11 years ago

Where they marching too is what I wanna know..!




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#9 11 years ago
Artie Bucco;3655887I recommend reading that article Orange County Weekly - The Anti-Immigrant All-Stars

I liked the section

“This is the first time I’ve ever attended one of these protests,” a short, middle-aged white woman told me.

What made you attend? I was talking to a friend in Brooklyn, and she told me illegals live there! Imagine! Mexicans in Brooklyn! I never realized there was a problem!

So you don’t mind all the illegals living here in Southern California? No, I do. I can’t even visit a hospital anymore!

How long have you lived in Southern California? My entire life.

And you just realized today that illegal immigrants live in Southern California? No, they’ve always been here! But today is the day we start civil war!

What about in 1994, when Proposition 187 passed? Did you have a problem with illegals then? Yes, but there weren’t as many then. Some of my best friends are Mexican!

Hilarious.

What should be of the most concern is that the illegal immigrants may be granted amnesty/citizenship in order to secure those 12 million odd votes, and thus practically win the next few elections. They are an immensely attractive political toy for that reason.




InfantryDivision

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#10 11 years ago

To my previous post, I was going to edit but ran out of time. EDIT(5/1)- Either way, if they leave or not, they will just come back illegally. If America doesnt act up and give these immigrants what they want, they will just repeat their marching process until they get the governments attention. This will never stop. One voice may get attention, but a hundred people to show up might make a piece of history to remember. If America does allow them to have their citizenship, what would the outcome of this be? As said before, the US begins to over-populate. The US will over-populate, this might hurt the economy, and this will definetely increase poverty. This will also influence others to come into the States and expect the US government to give them citizenships. America is a people-magnet. People come here for freedom and for better living, like I did. This is going to get worse if no action is taken.