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Locomotor

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#11 11 years ago
NemmerleAnd then there are those of us who aren't retarded enough to define our political opinions in the black and white terms of party politics.

Superficial partisan dichotomies are the philosophical foundation of ethics, I thought? :lookaround:




AlDaja

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#12 11 years ago

[COLOR=black]Most rational open mind people share a commonality, or compatibility of sorts with conventional conservatism and liberal ideals, this tends to come about for most individuals who have been around the block a bit and have had a chance to experience the cause and effect of living in the real world aside from coercions they’ve absorbed from parental or academic suggestives. The political radical and their lesser lockstep misinformed companions seem to define strict view points of their party affiliation based on what they are told, not necessarily experienced. Political positioning from many hard pressed “liberal” and “conservative” minded individuals, tend to be imbecilic apologetic drones for their party, unwilling to yield the possibility their position may be wrong. I prefer the individual that takes an issue(s) mulls over it for a bit and then provides an educated opinion on a topic. I myself have drifted back and forth on topics depending on how they relate to my well-being and the nation as a whole. I tend to reserve my judgment until I have facts about what it is I’m attempting to formulate an opinion about. Abortion for example…it is not a black and white situation and many scenarios as to why and why not factor in for me. I largely allow this to be a woman’s prerogative, but draw the line if it is being used as some perverse from of birth control as it conflicts with my personal moral directives.[/COLOR]




Biiviz

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#13 11 years ago
NiteStryker;4968138I'd go for eye for an eye at the farthese, but more accuratly I'd like people put to death for the small shit, like grand theft auto or graffiti or shoplifting, but I dont like abortion. Maybe its because the fetus didnt do anything to rate death, but the thief made a decision to steal.

An eye for an eye... when the suspect is actually innocent? America isn't exactly famous for its perfect juridical system.




Fetter

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#14 11 years ago
AlDaja;4968209[COLOR=black]Most rational open mind people share a commonality, or compatibility of sorts with conventional conservatism and liberal ideals, this tends to come about for most individuals who have been around the block a bit and have had a chance to experience the cause and effect of living in the real world aside from coercions they’ve absorbed from parental or academic suggestives. The political radical and their lesser lockstep misinformed companions seem to define strict view points of their party affiliation based on what they are told, not necessarily experienced. Political positioning from many hard pressed “liberal” and “conservative” minded individuals, tend to be imbecilic apologetic drones for their party, unwilling to yield the possibility their position may be wrong. I prefer the individual that takes an issue(s) mulls over it for a bit and then provides an educated opinion on a topic. I myself have drifted back and forth on topics depending on how they relate to my well-being and the nation as a whole. I tend to reserve my judgment until I have facts about what it is I’m attempting to formulate an opinion about. Abortion for example…it is not a black and white situation and many scenarios as to why and why not factor in for me. I largely allow this to be a woman’s prerogative, but draw the line if it is being used as some perverse from of birth control as it conflicts with my personal moral directives.[/COLOR]

Wall of text. Seriously dude, you should edit that.

Nite, the way you're putting it it sounds like you're saying the liberals WANT to kill their unborn children, and you make it sound as though they're doing it out of maliciousness. That's not the case. They want to give the CHOICE to the mother to abort the child, either because the parent(s) are unable/don't want to care for the child, or for other valid reasons.




Ryuukotseiz_SITHLORD

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#15 11 years ago

The Walrus;4968300Wall of text. Seriously dude, you should edit that.

Nite, the way you're putting it it sounds like you're saying the liberals WANT to kill their unborn children, and you make it sound as though they're doing it out of maliciousness. That's not the case. They want to give the CHOICE to the mother to abort the child, either because the parent(s) are unable/don't want to care for the child, or for other valid reasons.

For instance losing their childhood. With conservative logic, they are basically saying you have to have the baby even if your a teenager. Promotes teen pregnancy, but increases the birth rates. :uhm: With liberal logic, you don't have to have the baby if you truly don't want to. That brings down birth rates, but it does lower the amount of teen parents.. :uhm:




Mr. Matt Advanced Member

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#16 11 years ago
Nemmerle;4968139And then there are those of us who aren't retarded enough to define our political opinions in the black and white terms of party politics.

Hear, hear. Although I'm willing to bet that you'd find yourself pigeonholed too, if you were to ask people to classify you. People like genres.




Dot Com

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#17 11 years ago
Nemmerle;4968139And then there are those of us who aren't retarded enough to define our political opinions in the black and white terms of party politics.

Pithy, my dear Watson. :beer:




NiteStryker

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#18 11 years ago
Biiviz;4968278An eye for an eye... when the suspect is actually innocent? [/QUOTE] Suspect caught robbing a liquor store on video camera is not innocent. Man chased on the freeway for a half hour, has tires blown out, crashed the car and still survives is not innocent. Man linked by sperm stains on 7 year old girl's dead body to her rape and subsequent death is not innocent. Group of guys who fornicate a passed out whore with pool cues are not innocent. The whore? Not innocent.

Biiviz;4968278 America isn't exactly famous for its perfect juridical system.[/QUOTE] I never said it was. Im just sick of the petty punishments that do very little to deter. Someone broke into an adjacent apartment complex across the street from me, cleaned the place out, was caught on security cameras, sold everything, and got caught using the money to buy drugs in a sting from cops, got 5 years probation and some fine. Fucking horse shit.

The Walrus;4968300 Nite, the way you're putting it it sounds like you're saying the liberals WANT to kill their unborn children, and you make it sound as though they're doing it out of maliciousness.

No I simply stated that liberals are unrestrictably in favor of abortion.

[QUOTE=The Walrus;4968300] That's not the case. They want to give the CHOICE to the mother to abort the child, either because the parent(s) are unable/don't want to care for the child, or for other valid reasons.

Ok. Thanks for the info. But that wasnt the point. I didnt ask what their reasoning is behind it.

[QUOTE=Ryuukotseiz_SITHLORD;4968317]For instance losing their childhood. With conservative logic, they are basically saying you have to have the baby even if your a teenager. Promotes teen pregnancy, but increases the birth rates. :uhm: With liberal logic, you don't have to have the baby if you truly don't want to. That brings down birth rates, but it does lower the amount of teen parents.. :uhm:

Exactly.

So I wonder...which could be deemed a "better" philosophy? Is there one? Is one more beneficial to general society than the other?




AlDaja

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#19 11 years ago
Wall of text. Seriously dude, you should edit that.

yes, I should have used street...or used a lot of "ums", "ands" and "you know".:rolleyes:




Fetter

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#20 11 years ago

No, I'm just pointing out that it's hard to read because it would seem that you don't know where the enter key is.