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#1 12 years ago

This video describes how bad the hunger is, how people resort to cannibalism, how opium is harvested (instead of food) and is sold to members of the government, how people get tortured just for having a camera, etc...

Disgusting. It's 45 minutes long. :(




Nusentinsaino

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#2 12 years ago

And we're at war in Iraq. :rolleyes:




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#3 12 years ago

Well South Korea would have argued if we went into North Korea. Seoul is only like 20 minutes from the border and WELL within WMD range.

The US doesnt make it a habit of attack countries that actually have those things ya know.




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#4 12 years ago

Yeah I know, it's an unrealistic scenario... but I was making a point.




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#5 12 years ago

well we did one thing good, even if it was only a little thing




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#6 12 years ago

How can the government members live with themselves :(

Well I guess it's nice to have an own little world in Pyongyang




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#7 12 years ago
Chemix2;3856153well we did one thing good, even if it was only a little thing

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. In case of Iraq I doubt that there even was a good intention though.

As for Korea, I think change can only come from within the country. Sanctions only increase the suffering of the population but don't affect those in power at all and a military intervention is something South Korea, China and Russia probably won't allow.




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#8 12 years ago
Roaming EastWell South Korea would have argued if we went into North Korea. Seoul is only like 20 minutes from the border and WELL within WMD range.

Not to mention thousands of North Korean artillery pieces near the border in underground bunkers, tubes pointed at Seoul.

Sanctions alone won't topple the communist regime, what it would take would be heavy political and military pressure as well, and especially from China. However in current situation this kind of scenario is way off.




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#9 12 years ago

Sanctions are the exact wrong measure, that'll only be used as propaganda that "the West" is trying to destabilize the country, aid is needed instead. Not only because the people are starving, but to show that:

1. There is obviously something wrong with how their government is working (as if anyone there hadn't noticed, ha!)

2. The Western powers are actually really cool and helpful and don't hate them

Course, tons of aid are already flowing into the country. It's probably one of the most surreal places to be in at the moment. Such an incredibly long-lasting totalitarian regime has really messed the place up (obviously). If you've seen pictures, you'll know how weird it is.

Honestly I think the best thing that can be done is to try and open the borders and establish international relations as well as possible. Isolation is exactly what the country doesn't need.




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#10 12 years ago
KarstSanctions are the exact wrong measure, that'll only be used as propaganda that "the West" is trying to destabilize the country

Everything can be used as propaganda when the government has total control over the media: how Nanking North Korean knows if there really are sanctions or if the government is lying? Sanctions already put pressure on North Korea but if they would be combined with heavy political & military pressure as well and possibly with some carrots (like significant amount of energy, food etc. aid, non-aggression pact), the results could be positive.

...aid is needed instead.

Not only because the people are starving, but to show that:

1. There is obviously something wrong with how their government is working (as if anyone there hadn't noticed, ha!)

2. The Western powers are actually really cool and helpful and don't hate them

What guarantees that North Korean officials don't use aid as a propaganda tool, saying the aid is a result of the government's staunch foreign policy?

Honestly I think the best thing that can be done is to try and open the borders and establish international relations as well as possible. Isolation is exactly what the country doesn't need.

Agreed though it's the North Korean government that wants to keep the country isolated it seems.




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