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#381 14 years ago

Fatty acids, but protein is required too.




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#382 14 years ago
SaquistThere is no concievable reason why this should be the case. If the primordial soup was really stirred up by volcanic activity and lightning strikes. The probability of one-sided shutting out the other would litteral be any act other than chance.

That is true, but very little happens purely by chance. Everything is affected by everything. Check out this link. I know, it's not solid evidence, but it's a plausible theory. Don't make the same mistakes so many people have made before and say: "Well, here's something I can't explain, so it must have been the work of God!"...




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#383 14 years ago

Fascinating...

And yet its point is void. Why do I keeping reading articles on M42? They must be concentrating some sort of search there.

Anyway...before I rebutt the very intresting article. I'd like to say. The view that I myself (no one else) believe that process by which God created life was somehow magical...is quite to the contrary.

My mind keeps coming back to a scripture...Genesis 11:4

It's about the confusing of the languages at the Tower of Babel God says to his masterworker. "Why, now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be unattainable for them"

I think that's true on more than a metaphorical level. I like Scientist. They're like children. Curious and stubborn. They want to figure it out for themselves starting off from zero and working they're way up.

I think eventually if God allows that man could figure out how to create life from lifelessness himself. I think on that day should it happen we'll really understand that it takes a conscious effort to create something as precious and complex as Life.

However... Notice I posted before there is no way to explain the one sidedness of Life to day. While we can explain how Left handed amino acids became DOMINATE they'll never understand why ALL life is ONLY made of these L-amino acids even when the right hand amino acids exist even now. They remain unformed building blocks as though discarded.

That defies the evolutionary sechmatic of probable cause. It always will.

I call it a finger print. It seems like a conscious contradiction, favortism even, Like a prefrence for Blue over Green.




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#384 14 years ago
SaquistHowever... Notice I posted before there is no way to explain the one sidedness of Life to day. While we can explain how Left handed amino acids became DOMINATE they'll never understand why ALL life is ONLY made of these L-amino acids even when the right hand amino acids exist even now. They remain unformed building blocks as though discarded. That defies the evolutionary sechmatic of probable cause. It always will. I call it a finger print. It seems like a conscious contradiction, favortism even, Like a prefrence for Blue over Green.

That is actually quite easy to explain. All life uses only left-handed amino acids because it can't use right handed ones. If, in the beginning, there were much more left handed amino acids, the organisms that use right handed ones would be at a serious disatvantage. Not to mention that they can not recycle left-handed amino acids from the majority of other organisms.




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#385 14 years ago

explain can't. Explain the inability to recycle and it's origin of the inability.




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#386 14 years ago
Saquistexplain can't. Explain the inability to recycle and it's origin of the inability.

Proteins and other essential biological molecules are very much dependant on their conformation and configuration. A slight mistake will cause the protein to malfunction, or not even work at all. For our proteins to have only left-handed chiral centers is essential for their function. If a racemic mixture would be used, those proteins would be useless. So, it's a 50:50 chance really. Well, not really 50:50, because in prebiotic times left-handed amino acids were more numerous.

(A good example of the difference to us in stereoisomers is aspartame. With it's two left-handed chiral centers it tastes sweet to us, while the same molecule, with one left-handed and one right-handed chiral centre tastes bitter.)




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#387 14 years ago

yOU'VE lost me... at racemic and steroisomers

I'm afraid I'm ill equiped to understand your arguement.