Internet piracy site in bid for own island to beat copyright laws 62 replies

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Reno

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#51 13 years ago

I don't understand why its so expensive. A person can buy a little island in the caribbean for about 10 million.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/sale-price-over-10M.htm




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#52 13 years ago

The 2 billion includes the costs they need to make the place livable, and ofcourse, there's the fact that the pier (it's not even an island) was never intended to be sold, hense an unrealistic price tag. More likely than not, the reasons for wanting to build on the pier include some sort of base plumbing system installed, a power line and communications line of some sort.




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#53 13 years ago

People have been living there since the 70's, the place was built during ww2, it's already habitable.




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#54 13 years ago

More technilogical then? and by that I mean a shitload of servers and cable lines.




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#55 13 years ago

The article mentions that 2 billion is a "show price". I think you can get something better for that kind of money.




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#56 13 years ago

I could have sworn it was 50,000,000




Reno

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#57 13 years ago

You could make your own island for less then 2 billion using landfill and a reef somewhere.




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#58 13 years ago

Just an FYi for you all.... when concerning music and so on..... Each record/cd ( whatever ) sold is worth 100 points. Each point is negotiated. The average negitiation ends up with the artist making 20 point to the sale. The remaining 80 goes to Lawyers, record companies promotions and soo on...

So when you look at it, they make 20% of the album's retail. Each album sold at say 14.99 x's 10,000 albums x's 20%. Do the math.

It doesn't matter whether they put their servers on an island somewhere. The funny thing about this is , they will need to swear allegiance to some country. Or else they have NOTHING to do with Sovreign territory. Anyone can walk in there and slap them around, and nothing could be done.

Also, it is YOU who breaks the law. Downloading materials from thier servers, is your issue. When you get busted, you have to pay the money do the time , not them.




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#59 13 years ago

Mast3rofPuppets;3483896This only goes for artist but: I think all bands (except maybe the big monsters (read Beatles ;))) makes more money with piracy. As we all know the artists gets almost nothing from the record sales. The record labels takes it's share and so does the shops selling the record, the cost it costs to burn and distribute the CD unt so weiter. Bands get their money from concerts and merchandise. Artists generally doesn't loose money when someone downloads thier album, because more people discovers them and goes to thier concerts and buys thier t-shirts. Atleast that's my theory.

I have two examples:

The first is something I read in the newspaper a while ago. There's a Swedish record label (can't remember the name) that lets you download every album they're producing for free. The owner said something like "Lets say 100,000 people are downloading an album and 10% of them decides to buy the album to support the band. That's 10,000 CD's sold". Apparently his company was doing pretty well.

My second example is the Swedish band Machinae Supremacy. You can download all their songs for free on their website (http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/). I must say that I really like this band (I recommend the song "hybrid"), they're playing some kind of metal mixed with electronic sounds. If they're ever going to play in Stockholm I'll sure go and see them. If they wouldn't have made their songs available for free on their homepage I wouldn't even have been aware of their existence, and thus they wouldn't have made any money from me if they're ever coming to Stockholm.

I'm not defending piracy, I like to have the real thing in my hand, but I think all the big recordlabels will die out in 10 years and that the bands will make all their songs available for free on the internet. To sum up my theory: Albums will just be PR to get people to go in their concerts. Just look at Myspace, the revolution has begun!

So true. the last CDs and a 7 inch single i have bought have been at concerts or shows. They are always followed by hand shake and a compliment to the band member. The internet and file sharing is a powerful tool which remains hardly untapped by many major labels but has been used to great effect by many indie labels and artists. Lets face it CDs aren't expensive to make. I mean shit iam often times handed free demos and compilation samplers at shows. The internet hurts major labels while providing a boost for smaller indie labels that are more aware of what their fans, bands and artists want.

http://www.downhillbattle.org/ <- i won't doubt that the site is biased but it does raise some good points.




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#60 13 years ago
MerrickDS;3485609 Also, it is YOU who breaks the law. Downloading materials from thier servers, is your issue. When you get busted, you have to pay the money do the time , not them.

Sure, but the important thing is that if you have your servers in a nation without copyright-protection it is very difficult for people from other nations to shut those servers down. The only thing left for them to do would be to create their own ISP, so that their customer's identity isn't revealed.

There is a mp3-selling site in Russia which makes a lot of money because US-based companies have problems suing them for copyright-infringements.