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WarHawk109

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#31 13 years ago

Iran Declares War

New York Sun Editorial

President Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush, widely interpreted as a peaceful overture, is in fact a declaration of war. The key sentence in the letter is the closing salutation. In an eight-page text of the letter being circulated by the Council on Foreign Relations, it is left untranslated and rendered as "Vasalam Ala Man Ataba'al hoda." What this means is "Peace only unto those who follow the true path."

It is a phrase with historical significance in Islam, for, according to Islamic tradition, in year six of the Hejira - the late 620s - the prophet Mohammad sent letters to the Byzantine emperor and the Sassanid emperor telling them to convert to the true faith of Islam or be conquered. The letters included the same phrase that President Ahmadinejad used to conclude his letter to Mr. Bush. For Mohammad, the letters were a prelude to a Muslim offensive, a war launched for the purpose of imposing Islamic rule over infidels.

http://www.nysun.com/article/32594




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#32 13 years ago

Iran is going to be nothing like Iraq. Look at the military numbers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops




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#33 13 years ago

Point being?

The North Koreans have a huge military too. And with the exception of their so-called special forces, they are all poorly trained and poorly motivated. The only reason those North Koreans go into the military is that it is the only way they can feed their families.

Remember, the Iraqis beat the Iranians in the 1980s. And we beat the Iraqis, twice, even though we were terribly outnumbered.

Honestly, do you think that that Iran would be even a challenge to the United States or United Kingdom? Hell, we already have the country surrounded on three sides. Just pop 'em like a zit.




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#34 13 years ago

the iranian military couldn't hold a candle next the the USA, numbers mean very little.




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#35 13 years ago

They would be stupid not to learn from what happened in Iraq. If they are smart they pull back to the cities where America's technological advantage is greatly diminished, if they decentralise their command structure as well, they can, and will be a challange.




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#36 13 years ago
WarHawk109the iranian military couldn't hold a candle next the the USA, numbers mean very little.

but it can mean a blood bath. ya and thats just their normal army. their paramilitary force is a fanatical muslim army. these guys are fanatics who charged in human waves during the iran-iraq war. they are not a bunch of pussies like the iraqi army who surrendered like crazy. i just dount think the army would be willing to mow down thousands of these fanatics for fear of a political problem.




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#37 13 years ago
czech speacial forcesbut it can mean a blood bath. ya and thats just their normal army. their paramilitary force is a fanatical muslim army. these guys are fanatics who charged in human waves during the iran-iraq war. they are not a bunch of pussies like the iraqi army who surrendered like crazy. i just dount think the army would be willing to mow down thousands of these fanatics for fear of a political problem.

A blood bath yes, but not for the US military! :D

Someone once said that sending untrained soldiers into battle is like throwing them away. Well I don't believe the Iranians are as well trained as the US military. ;)




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#38 13 years ago

Fanaticism in and of itself doesnt mean anything if your enemy is able to bomb you remorselessly day or night. It would be foolish to assmue the US has also not learned any lessons from its escapades in Iraq and A-stan. Know what the enemy sees? He see's the US surrounding his country on 3 sides. He sees the US as having the worlds largest military force which is almost entirely composed of battle hardened and experianced veterans who are experiancing extremely high moral. He most certainly sees that we just pimp handed the shiat out of a nation that he himself couldnt beat militarily (twice).