Iranian Christian possibly to be put to death for refusing to convert to Islam. 54 replies

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emonkies

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#1 7 years ago

Iranian Pastor Faces Execution For Refusing To Recant Christian Faith | Fox News

The Christian Pastor has argued all along that he was raised Christian and has refused to abandon his faith and adopt Islam.

The case went to...a Islamic court ruled by Islamic laws who ruled that although the man was not raised as a Muslim he has Muslim ancestry therefore Muslim blood flows in his veins and he has to convert.

The Pastor has still refused and could still be put to death before the end of the week.

Yet again Iran sets the standard for Islams perceived intolerance of other religions.




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#2 7 years ago

A beautiful and peaceful country.




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#3 7 years ago

I wouldn't last very long there




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#4 7 years ago

This is ridiculous. You've got all these Islamics who claim they're not violent, yet they're going to condemn someone to death because they believe in a different way? ...and they say that they're a peaceful religion and wish no harm on others. Yeah right.

One must wonder (as it has been mentioned and speculated elsewhere) if Islam were to expand, would the entire world (regardless of nationality) be expected to convert to something that they don't believe in else they face death? It's absurd.




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#5 7 years ago

Actually, yes. Some of the more active/radical Mullah's and Imam's are calling for a one world one religion and that religion is Islam.

IIRC it states in the Qu'ran that it is wrong to forcibly convert people.




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#6 7 years ago

How is someone's religion actually determined for the purposes of these legal proceedings? I imagine it wouldn't be enough for him to just say, "OK guys, you win, I am a Muslim now".




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#7 7 years ago

[SIZE="3"]Well that's what they mean when they say he won't recant his faith. He could win by saying that. He's just refused to do so.

The Iranians are arguing that his religion is determined by descent - some of his ancestors were Muslim, therefore he was a Muslim by default. Being a Christian is thus verboten for him. That's their problem really -legally speaking- not that he's Christian but that he was Muslim. You can't step away from Islam in that country.

Any one of us would be like 'Sure, fuck it - whatever. I'm a Muslim now. Say is my Visa ready yet?' But he's religious, by definition he doesn't think about these sorts of things completely rationally.

Point is we're not all on the same page - we're not even in the same book half the time.[/SIZE]




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#8 7 years ago

But in the Qur'an it states that Christians and Jews are people of the book.




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#9 7 years ago

[SIZE="3"]Religion says a lot of things, most of which are on first blush contradictory. How you make those things compatible, and to an extent whether you bother as compared to just using it as a framework to justify your political objectives - dictates the eventual shape of your theology.[/SIZE]




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#10 7 years ago

He didn't exactly play his cards very well when he told the judge that Islam is blasphemy. Still, it takes some bravery to remain true to your convictions even if it could mean death or imprisonment and especially if you could just "recant" and then move to a better country to practice your religion of choice.