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emonkies

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#1 8 years ago

BBC News - Iran 'starts enriching nuclear fuel to 20%' at Natanz

According to stories and what I have read most nuclear powerplants use fuel enriched to 3.5%

Research reactors typically used for research and experiments use about 20% enrichment.

Military grade stuff uses 90% enrichment.

Iran has said for years now they only want fuel to provide energy which would be the 3.5%

Now Iran has announced they are stepping up enrichment to 20%.

I think this just shows that Iran has been lying all along and is just stalling and trying to stretch out any action because they know sanctions are worthless and that the West will never attack as long as Iran keeps engaging in dialogue.

The event that Iran has been stalling for may be related to the promise of a heavy blow to the west on February 11th.

Im half expecting them to pop a nuke out in the southeastern desert.




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#2 8 years ago

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MrFancypants Forum Admin

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#3 8 years ago

According to Iran they need 20% enriched uranium for their research reactor which is supposed to produce isotopes for medical application. That might be, but building 10 new enrichment facilities suggests that they either have a crazy demand for those isotopes or that they want to use highly enriched uranium for something else.

The recent development with Iran was quite interesting. Some weeks ago it looked as if a deal to enrich urianium outside of Iran was close, but that deal apparently broke down (probably because Iran wasn't really interested in pursuing it or maybe because they wanted a bigger aid package in return). A few days ago they said again that they'd agree to such a deal, but most western politicians stated that they regard this as a bluff (which is probably true) so Iran now says the west doesn't want to cooperate and forces them to enrich their own uranium.

All this looks to me as if Iran is always one step ahead in a game they cannot lose anyway. The threat of sanctions doesn't seem to work. Actual sanctions will probably work even less (they'll probablly just be a convenient tool to entice the Iranian population against us). A military strike doesn't seem so likely either.




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#4 8 years ago

MrFancypants;5236459According to Iran they need 20% enriched uranium for their research reactor which is supposed to produce isotopes for medical application. That might be, but building 10 new enrichment facilities suggests that they either have a crazy demand for those isotopes or that they want to use highly enriched uranium for something else.

The recent development with Iran was quite interesting. Some weeks ago it looked as if a deal to enrich urianium outside of Iran was close, but that deal apparently broke down (probably because Iran wasn't really interested in pursuing it or maybe because they wanted a bigger aid package in return). A few days ago they said again that they'd agree to such a deal, but most western politicians stated that they regard this as a bluff (which is probably true) so Iran now says the west doesn't want to cooperate and forces them to enrich their own uranium.

All this looks to me as if Iran is always one step ahead in a game they cannot lose anyway. The threat of sanctions doesn't seem to work. Actual sanctions will probably work even less (they'll probablly just be a convenient tool to entice the Iranian population against us). A military strike doesn't seem so likely either.

I don't have much else to add then this.

The 20% could partially be an other bluff an/or muscle flexing, partially be true and sued for medical/scientific purposes and partially be a road to even more highly enriched uranium.

I'm still not sure if they are indeed working on some nuke, I wouldn't really be too happy about that although I would quite understand as their enemies and potential hostiles/enemies do have access to nukes, so they want them too. I don't think they'd ever be so stupid to use them though and we'd be stuck with the type of Korean (cold war) stand off.




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#5 8 years ago
Admiral Donutz;5236471I don't think they'd ever be so stupid to use them though and we'd be stuck with the type of Korean (cold war) stand off.

The problem is that if Iran gets nukes a bunch of other middle eastern countries might want to join the club. So you end up with lots of poor countries that hate each other's guts pointing nuclear weapons at one another. There wouldn't be a lot of time between the launch of a missile and its impact which means that there wouldn't be a lot of time to confirm that a missile has really been launched once something is detected. So there'd be a lot of nervosity involved, which is probably not a good thing if you are dealing with nuclear weapons. On top of that there is the risk that one of those government will give a nuke to a terrorist organization or that terrorists steal a nuke from one of those governments.

The only good thing about such a scenario could be that suddenly everyone would be highly motivated to keep things stabile.




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#6 8 years ago

There are few things more dangerous than a religious zealot who thinks he is doing gods work.

Be it a Conservative Christian in Washington D.C. or a Muslim Imam in Tehran.




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#7 8 years ago

Fuck it, let's just glass them. Not with nukes obviously, (oil,) but you get the idea. It's not like they're doing anything for us anyway. We can import the specialists to pump the oil once the gas clears, they have large populations of foreigners there for that purpose anyway.




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#8 8 years ago

Either the world deals with the threat Iran poses, or the Israelis will deal with it for us. Iran has stated several times that their nuclear goal is to wipe Israel off the map, and Israel isn't one to sit back and let threats to their existence go unchecked. Better for everyone if we can deal with this mad regime now. Too bad we don't have anyone in the White House with the balls to stand up to them, eh?




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#9 8 years ago
Nemmerle;5236513Fuck it, let's just glass them. Not with nukes obviously, (oil,) but you get the idea. It's not like they're doing anything for us anyway. We can import the specialists to pump the oil once the gas clears, they have large populations of foreigners there for that purpose anyway.

Why not with nukes?

I bet you can pump oil just as easily through glass as through sand.




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#10 8 years ago

Iran better not nuke Israel, dammit. I'm heading there this summer for an archaeological dig, and that would be a pretty tough trip if it's to a nuclear wasteland.

But seriously, did anyone actually think Iran wasn't going to develop weapons? No doubt they were going to use the uranium for power and research too, but a country like Iran not developing nuclear weapons is just ridiculous. The scary thing is they might be willing to use them. It can be tough to gauge someone like Ahmadinejad but he strikes me as someone who is willing to risk a bit of destruction to accomplish some goals.