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OggY Black Mask

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#1 12 years ago

I was watching TV last night when i saw a horrific advert i think should definetly be band right away. For those who watched Lost, many would have seen the advert where US troops are walking up a road in iraq and a car bomb goes off. Gradually all the Marines have there faces turned into clowns, and they start getting shot at and killed by terrorists. We are mocking our own side!!!. That is disgusting! :mad: How could anyone make and advert like that! My uncles are out in Iraq doing the same job! Its making us look like we are backing terrorism!! Its dreadfully!!! Im Not Pro War, BUT i support our armed forces fighting it!!




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#2 12 years ago

that is kinda silly indeed, im not american, but what was the advert for? for a product? Im not pro war either, but I hope your family comes back alive and in one piece




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#3 12 years ago

No, the intention was NOT to mock our side. You totally misread it. It was quite the contrary. More4, (the Adult Entertainment channel for non Brits) is doing a series of programmes on the Iraq War, and that one was something to do with it being like a circus (it was in the title but can't remember the name). More4 is a news channel and does not look fondly on the Iraq War, but they do respect those who fight it, with interviews and such. It's the politians they dislike. If you listen to the advert, you'll hear it has a depressing soundtrack and the VO is equally serious, and you can see the clowns expressions are that they are terrified as they desperately fire back and run for cover.

The programme is supposed to depict the entire conflict as a joke, and innocent people face the consequences, as clowns do in the circus. So really, it's doing just what you want it to, being anti-war but pro-soldiers.

If you see it again, you'll see it's actually quite tasteful, I was blown away by it.




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#4 12 years ago

Is that advert somewhere on the net? I'd like to see it.




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#5 12 years ago

Yea..I was watching Lost and must have missed that commercial...




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#6 12 years ago

no you dont do that i dont care if i missread that but by showing it that was its making a mockery of the soldiers over there the way things are going Iraq is gonna be the next 'nam the soldiers will be riddiculed when they come back and we will lose becasue all support will be lost and they wont be allowd to finish thier mission i say no more anti-war stuff im sick of it keep it to yourself an to those of you who are anti-war well i guess getting into WWII was the wrong thing to do i guess we all like speaking german




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#7 12 years ago

You might find it here....

http://www.channel4.com/more4/




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#8 12 years ago
mauler85no you dont do that i dont care if i missread that but by showing it that was its making a mockery of the soldiers over there the way things are going Iraq is gonna be the next 'nam the soldiers will be riddiculed when they come back and we will lose becasue all support will be lost and they wont be allowd to finish thier mission i say no more anti-war stuff im sick of it keep it to yourself an to those of you who are anti-war well i guess getting into WWII was the wrong thing to do i guess we all like speaking german

Well, if you don't care you are missing the point...

As I said, this is not making a mockery of the soldiers. It's highlighting the hilarity of the whole situation. Soldiers are expected to fight an invisible enemy; insurgents who can strike at any time and who are invulnerable as the only method to eliminate them is to bomb the crap out of Iraq (and even Bush would see the downside to that). The clowns in the circus are always victims, with pie throwing etc, they are always the ones who end up worse off. The advert is NOT calling them clowns, but it is bridging the gap between the idea of Iraq being pointless and stupid and the ordeals the soldiers have to go through. Everything is about symbolism these days, never take anything at face value.

Vietnam was tragic. The government was to blame, sending soldiers to fight Communism when they weren't a clear and present danger to the US. Adding to the fact that the actions of a minority undermined the US army. These factors resulted in them being shunned from society when they returned, not at all recieving the respect and admiration they deserved. They had fought a war for America and spilled blood for them, but thanks to the political aspect and actions of the few who abused their position as soldiers, they were ignored. It's unfortunate, that the success and political message of wars helps greatly in deciding what the outcome is for returning soldiers. Seems politics and combat are unfairly linked, and many can't see the distinction between them. Unfortunate, but true.

If we lose the anti-war stance, then we'll have a hell of a lot more wars in the future, since the government will think conquest is what the public wants. As for the mission....well, IMO securing Western capitalism and democracy is not the right COA. Every nation has a diverse culture, different from the one next to it. I don't think creating a clone of America or any of the Western countries is beneficial for Iraq.

Now WWII was a justified war, since you were attacked. That is the one reason for war. You had every right to enter and you helped the Allies a great deal with the extra supplies, troops and equipment. Similarly, the War in Afghanistan wasn't opposed greatly due to 9/11. (Btw, you wouldn't be speaking German, since for Hitler that was certianly too far away. He had reservations about invading Britain which he had a great respect for, and was only forced into the BoB due to the war).

Wars for the wrong political reasons tend to do the worst in public support, but soldiers don't deserve the hostility they recieve. Yes, a minority sometimes make stupid mistakes and atrocities, but the entire armed forces are then tarred by this same brush.

If you HAD seen this advert, you would realise that this does not badmouth the Armed Forces; it depicts them as the victims of a cruel game. Everything in the ad was done to a high standard, with the musical score, the serious female narrator, and the actions and expressions of the soldiers. It is somewhat comparable to Green Day's Wake Me Up When September Ends video, with the bad war-good soldiers theme, but it's more compelling and had a deeper meaning.




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#9 12 years ago
USS Endeavour(Btw, you wouldn't be speaking German, since for Hitler that was certianly too far away. He had reservations about invading Britain which he had a great respect for, and was only forced into the BoB due to the war).

do you know what world domination means its what hitler was striving for

and im pro war becasue with out war their is no peace one come from the other

if we dont go to war with the Fanatical Muslim extremists who WILL kill you if they get a chance becasue you dont belive what they belive they need to be neutralized and that is why we when yes i agree they should of just said that instead of all the BS they said but now were their becase they cant protect them selves yet and thats why we cant leave yet b/c the seacond we do war lords will pop up and another country probly Iran will swoop in and take over think real hard about that you think we are bad to them they will kill all of them without a seacond thought




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#10 12 years ago
mauler85do you know what world domination means its what hitler was striving for

Wrong. Hitler didn't want war with Great Britain. He considered the Britons to be racial cousins of the German race.