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Cat_Fuzz

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#41 12 years ago

Okay, profit wasn't the right phrase, it's more like 'they are gonna exploit and abuse the worker til the worker can come together as one.' Which won't happen any time soon, due most western societies promoting the consumerist market;keeping the majority pre-occupied on more trivial matters so as to ease our minds off of just how badly we are used to keep the dominant classes in their easy chairs.

Of course, this is a Marxist view, but dammit, since I studied him, I agree :deal:




Locomotor

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#42 12 years ago

I've read some of Marx's essays and stuff, and most of the Communist Manifesto. I think it's stupid that his writings are so demonized today. I agree with a lot of his sentiments, namely his argument of history of civilization being a history of class struggles, and the alienation of labor.




Tas

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#43 12 years ago

The government making a profit is just dandy, the dutch government used to have a few million surplus each years.. which was then spent during the next year. I dont see anything wrong with that. :)




Nostradamouse

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#44 12 years ago
Locomotor;3279966I've read some of Marx's essays and stuff, and most of the Communist Manifesto. I think it's stupid that his writings are so demonized today. I agree with a lot of his sentiments, namely his argument of history of civilization being a history of class struggles, and the alienation of labor.

I for one believe that alot of things that have been said against Marx are actually very true. He seems more like a power hungry bastard than anything else. All this for the glory of Germany!




WarHawk109

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#45 12 years ago
The 13th Raptor;3279998The government making a profit is just dandy, the dutch government used to have a few million surplus each years.. which was then spent during the next year. I dont see anything wrong with that. :)

Surpluses are a sign that the gov't is taxing us too much.




Aeroflot

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#46 12 years ago
LocomotorI've read some of Marx's essays and stuff, and most of the Communist Manifesto. I think it's stupid that his writings are so demonized today. I agree with a lot of his sentiments, namely his argument of history of civilization being a history of class struggles, and the alienation of labor.

I read some of Marx's stuff. I do agree highly with many of the things he said. His theories are so convincing... yet some of them are flawed. I read an essay my another person who convinced me that socialism won't work, at least not right now--which is what I believe. I think it was Marx who said that socialism will be the next step in the evolution of economics & politics, and that is also something I believe. One day we are going to be sick of capitalism and toss it out the window.

I dislike people who run around claiming they hate socialism and it won't work--they are just stupid, because they havn't read much of the theory, except for what is on Wikipedia. :rolleyes: I don't care if it will work, or not. Just read up about it. I guarantee that Marx will change minds... in one way or another.




Nostradamouse

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#47 12 years ago
Aeroflotte;3281506 I dislike people who run around claiming they hate socialism and it won't work--they are just stupid, because they havn't read much of the theory, except for what is on Wikipedia. :rolleyes: I don't care if it will work, or not. Just read up about it. I guarantee that Marx will change minds... in one way or another.

As much as he changed my mind, Bakunin changed mine by alot. Go read Marxism, Freedom and the State by him then come back to me. It pretty much blows anything that people might say good about the creation of a Marxist state.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/




Aeroflot

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#48 12 years ago

Nostradamouse;3281670As much as he changed my mind, Bakunin changed mine by alot. Go read Marxism, Freedom and the State by him then come back to me. It pretty much blows anything that people might say good about the creation of a Marxist state.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/

I actually almost picked that book out at the library, but I thought it was just another pro-Marxism book.




WarHawk109

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#49 12 years ago

I hear the Road to Serfdom is good too.




Nostradamouse

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#50 12 years ago
Aeroflotte;3281675I actually almost picked that book out at the library, but I thought it was just another pro-Marxism book.

Learn your history, Bakunin and Marx haven't really been friends. They were in the beginning, but the relationship kind of changed when Bakunin saw Marx policies.

You can get free online versions of those books, just check the link I posted.