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masked_marsoe VIP Member

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7426794.stm One of South America's few remaining uncontacted indigenous tribes has been spotted and photographed on the border between Brazil and Peru. The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists and help protect its land.

The pictures, taken from an aeroplane, show red-painted tribe members brandishing bows and arrows. ... The photos were taken during several flights over one of the most remote parts of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil's Acre region.

They show tribe members outside thatched huts, surrounded by the dense jungle, pointing bows and arrows up at the camera.

"We did the overflight to show their houses, to show they are there, to show they exist," the group quoted Jose Carlos dos Reis Meirelles Junior, an official in the Brazilian government's Indian affairs department, as saying. "This is very important because there are some who doubt their existence." He described the threats to such tribes and their land as "a monumental crime against the natural world" and "further testimony to the complete irrationality with which we, the 'civilised' ones, treat the world".

Disease is also a risk, as members of tribal groups that have been contacted in the past have died of illnesses that they have no defence against, ranging from chicken pox to the common cold.

Also see BBC NEWS | In Pictures | In pictures: Brazil tribe

I find this ...morally...uhh, interesting. I might get back to you on this one, but either way, I find it to be violating someone's existence, perhaps their entire awareness, and that has a certain sadness to it.




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#2 10 years ago

By flying that close to them, they might have ruined their religion and culture. Now they're going to worship "The flying white sky cloud" or something.




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#3 10 years ago

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#4 10 years ago

masked_marsoe;4364096Also see BBC NEWS | In Pictures | In pictures: Brazil tribe

I find this ...morally...uhh, interesting. I might get back to you on this one, but either way, I find it to be violating someone's existence, perhaps their entire awareness, and that has a certain sadness to it.

The fly over had a purpose though: they needed pictures to prove the existence of the tribe, so they would receive support to protect the tribe from unscrupulous loggers. I found the article fascinating, I didn't even know completely isolated tribes still existed, but apparently there are estimated to be quite a few, mostly in Peru and Brazil.




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#5 10 years ago

yeah i heard about this yesterday,what i dont understand is whats going to happen to them???Because those of you who know the story well,the area they live in is being deforested.




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#6 10 years ago
KarstThe fly over had a purpose though: they needed pictures to prove the existence of the tribe, so they would receive support to protect the tribe from unscrupulous loggers.

Yes, and it seems the agency involved in protecting them refuses to contact "lost" tribes.

Which is a good thing, in the long run.




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#7 10 years ago

Is it really fair to isolate these people like this? I mean, yeah, our globalisation is killing small cultures, but we have food, medicine, plumbing and all sorts of wonderful technologies. Shouldn't these people have the right to decide for themselves weither or not they want to be part of this world, or weither they want to live in isolation? After all, they are human beings, just like the rest of us, not apes!




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#8 10 years ago
'LIGHTNING [NL;4364489']Is it really fair to isolate these people like this? I mean, yeah, our globalisation is killing small cultures, but we have food, medicine, plumbing and all sorts of wonderful technologies. Shouldn't these people have the right to decide for themselves weither or not they want to be part of this world, or weither they want to live in isolation? After all, they are human beings, just like the rest of us, not apes!

Yes, but our contacting them means most of them die from infectious diseases.




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#9 10 years ago
'LIGHTNING [NL;4364489']Is it really fair to isolate these people like this? I mean, yeah, our globalisation is killing small cultures, but we have food, medicine, plumbing and all sorts of wonderful technologies. Shouldn't these people have the right to decide for themselves weither or not they want to be part of this world, or weither they want to live in isolation? After all, they are human beings, just like the rest of us, not apes!

Consider this..

While I'm sure you and I would welcome an advanced civilization so we could benefit from the wisdom and technology as long as it was benign..

It's is a violation.. or would be for them to expose themselves to us. They would upset our entire civilization, disillusion many people.. scare others into extreme xenophobia and pull the curious masses from their tightly knit communities.

Even if a giant spaceship (or helicopter for these Indians) set down in the parkinglot of your local mall (or temple) and beings of pure energy stepped out and said "we offer our help and knowledge to you if you want it", the damage would already be done.

It's not an easy question and as much as i go against my better judgment to mention this.. star trek's "primary directive" does make sense.




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#10 10 years ago

the problem is, interacting with them might destroy what unique qualities they have; see- first armed missionary missions to Africa for example.




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