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Big {Daddy}

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#1 14 years ago

The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth'.

Anyone seen this film... do you believe in demons and angels? Does the film represent death in anyway?

I don't, but I thought it was a cracking film. I want to see what the religious types think about it.




colonel_bob

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#2 14 years ago

Was that from 'What Dreams May Come'?




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#3 14 years ago
colonel_bobWas that from 'What Dreams May Come'?

The quote was from the movie in question.




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#4 14 years ago

Yeah, I saw that film the other night. I thought it was quite good (but not as good as "Brainstorm"). I'm not the religious type and I think that the only angels or demons we encounter are the ones we personally create for ourselves. This is pure conjecture but I feel that the experience of death depends largely upon the circumstances at the time. For example, people who have had near-death experiences sometimes report travelling through a tunnel of light etc. It has been hypothesised that this is due to the residual blood settling in the back of the brain where the visual stuff is processed. I think just about all these people were lying on their backs. (Sorry I can't be more technical than this but you understand I'm not a neurologist.) This theory was given a little more weight (for me anyway) when a woman in a documentary I once saw had "died" while lying face down. (I don't recall the details.) The experiences she related were very far from pleasant and she reported being torn apart by insects/demons etc. I suppose the moral is:- If you're going to drop dead then try to land on your back. :)




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#5 14 years ago
major eyeswaterYeah, I saw that film the other night. I thought it was quite good (but not as good as "Brainstorm"). I'm not the religious type and I think that the only angels or demons we encounter are the ones we personally create for ourselves. This is pure conjecture but I feel that the experience of death depends largely upon the circumstances at the time. For example, people who have had near-death experiences sometimes report travelling through a tunnel of light etc. It has been hypothesised that this is due to the residual blood settling in the back of the brain where the visual stuff is processed. I think just about all these people were lying on their backs. (Sorry I can't be more technical than this but you understand I'm not a neurologist.) This theory was given a little more weight (for me anyway) when a woman in a documentary I once saw had "died" while lying face down. (I don't recall the details.) The experiences she related were very far from pleasant and she reported being torn apart by insects/demons etc. I suppose the moral is:- If you're going to drop dead then try to land on your back. :)

I liked your reasoning about this picture and your feelings! I bought it and there for will see the picture myself. Thanks:)




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#6 14 years ago

Tell us what you think. :) Which film did you get, Jacobs Ladder or Brainstorm? Big {Daddy}.........hmmmmm.....a fellow scouser I see! What area are you from? Although my family moved out to Chester when I was very young I was born in Edinbourgh Rd, (off Hall Rd.)




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#7 14 years ago

what is the film about?




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#8 14 years ago

is it the robin williams movie?




major eyeswater

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#9 14 years ago

No. The main character is played by Tim Robbins.Okay, Jacob's Ladder was released in 1990, set in the seventies, but the story revolves around post Vietnam days, for one veteran at least, and after a frightening and disturbing experience before demob (he is bayonetted in the chest) which could be compared to Dantes Inferno the story heads off into the days when this still relatively young man is working as postman and living with his beautiful american hispanic US Mail colleague. The involvement of Vietnam continues to rear its ugly head and the hallucinating that continues to occur (he keeps seeing strange creatures and demons) and the occasion when his temperature soars resulting him to have to be dumped in an ice cold bath lowering his temperature. It is then the viewer is made aware of this mysterious drug called “BZ” aimed at making soldiers far more aggressive and combative. However it’s the side effects that centre around the movie, where Robbins after some strange encounters with men in black suits in limos and meeting up with former comrades, they decide to seek the truth only for him to be suddenly let down by his former army buddies, for no apparent reason. Another fact to contend with is the relationship with his former wife and the tragic death of his son after a traffic accident. This haunts him deeply throughout the story and tension with his partner develops and sparked on, when he uncovers family photographs including his late son. Eventually he meets up with the chemist who had been watching him for some time and who manufactured the drug, explains the truth. The chemist himself having to keep a low profile from the authorities because of what he knows. At the end of the film, Robbins is reunited with the spirit of his deceased son in an old house where they climb the stairs together and disappear into a bright light where you then realise something is odd when he is then back in Vietnam, returning to the start of the story, unconscious and in an army hospital tent with a doctor trying to save his life - only to fail. It is then one realises that it was just a dream and his entire future had been an hallucination as he lay dying. A powerful dream and endorses the power of this mind-bending drug that went horribly wrong.

Despite the often terrifying and unsettling visuals in Jacob's Ladder, the film is really about coming to peace with one's life or more appropriatly one's death. What really happens during those last few moments of life? Jacob’s Ladder is as original as movies come. I saw this film eleven years ago while I was still in high school. The film, at the time, influenced me much on how I look at life and how I look at films. Once in your head, Jacob’s Ladder is there for good. Still, Jacob's Ladder is the kind of the film that must be watched numerous times to get even an idea of all it holds

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#10 14 years ago

no iknow about jacobs ladder i was talking about what dreams may come that colonel_bob mentioned about , that to is about heaven and hell . i liked that version of heaven




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