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Anson992

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#31 10 years ago

I want the blood of anyone doing that, but the fact that the guy PUT IT ON THE INTERNET gives me the impression that I have every right to want his blood even more.

Its not like we are only empathizing the cat and getting mad because we see it, we're just madder because we see it and can't do anything about it. I know some guy right now is probably beating the crap out of his cat, and if I could I'd do everything in my power to kick that guy in the sack too...




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#32 10 years ago

Well you can do something about it...other then huffing and puffing. Go adopt a cat, go work at humane society; raise awareness of it threw neither non-violent means nor threat means. I’ve already seen that dusty website it's a disgrace they defeat there own purpose.


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#33 10 years ago

At this moment in time, I can't do anything about it.

Me adopting a cat will not stop other cats from being harmed. I'd join a humane society, but in reality I don't really have time for that.

The question is, where the hell are those people who DO work in a humane society right now? And how come this guy hasn't been banned for adopting cats or something that will at least stop this ONE guy of the HUNDREDS from abusing cats?




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#34 10 years ago

This kid which it under age, is still going to the courts, likly he isn't aloud to have pets anymore. Regadless his face, name and address is all over the internet which I think isn't right beacuse he's under age and this will led to mob volience on the kid...so yeah no pets..


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#35 10 years ago
Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw;4810558This kid which it under age, is still going to the courts, likly he isn't aloud to have pets anymore. Regadless his face, name and address is all over the internet which I think isn't right beacuse he's under age and this will led to mob volience on the kid...so yeah no pets..

No matter how illegal it might be on the technicality that he's 14 instead of 18 (either way, that's old enough to know right from wrong), he still brought it upon himself.




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#36 10 years ago
Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw;4810533How Christian of you....

And how typical of you... Again I don't consider myself having 100% Christian beliefs and I am a realist in the sense that I know there is no use forgiving somebody unless they truly regret his actions and want to be forgiven.




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#37 10 years ago
Stryker500;4810581And how typical of you... Again I don't consider myself having 100% Christian beliefs and I am a realist in the sense that I know there is no use forgiving somebody unless they truly regret his actions and want to be forgiven.[/quote] [quote=Matthew 6:14-15]For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Clearly not Christian at all. ;)




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#38 10 years ago
Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw;4810558This kid which it under age, is still going to the courts, likly he isn't aloud to have pets anymore. Regadless his face, name and address is all over the internet which I think isn't right beacuse he's under age and this will led to mob volience on the kid...so yeah no pets..

His name and face over the internet, inevitable. His address, that's a little too much.

But they should still put him in juvy.




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#39 10 years ago

MrFancypants;4810100I didn't disagree that laws don't lead to more experienced criminals, I disagreed with the conclusion that this effect outweighs the effect of a law. Even with your examples of prohibition and drugs the laws reduce the consumption of either. For example, drug prices are proportional to the effort involved in creating and smuggling drugs. That effort is much higher if you have to grow the plants in Africa or South American and then smuggle it to Europe or the US. In your examples the effect may not be dramatic, but there are probably other sorts of crimes which are easier to enforce. Bank-robbery, for example, doesn't seem to be as attractive as it used to be.

Besides, not only criminals gather experience, the police does too. So in the case of laws those effects probably negate each other (or maybe the police-experience outweighs it since it is easier for them to access data with their international networks). [/QUOTE]

Sure, which would be why I said you had to balance the negative effect of it against the enforcement. I’m not suggesting that all laws are worthless and will always be outweighed by the negatives.

MrFancypants;4810100A taboo is not enforced by authorities and doesn't benefit from experience, but it still works because of a peer pressure or deterrence.[/QUOTE]

Peer pressure only works if your peers actually know; and like as not if you’re the sort of person to do something like this you have a peer group suited to your mentality anyway.

MrFancypants;4810100If you look at your examples of drugs and alcohol-related crimes don't you think that social acceptance is a factor why corresponding laws are relatively ineffective? I'd guess that prohibition worked quite well in areas where drinking wasn't acceptable in the first place (e.g. one of those American groups of religious fanatics) while it didn't work so well in places where drinking alcohol was populat (e.g. a district with mostly Irish immigrants).

I’d imagine it was more effective in those areas because the people who are liable to create a taboo about it are less likely to do it themselves rather than because of the taboo itself.

[QUOTE=MrFancypants;4810100]This isn't always true, there are many examples of public opinion influencing the way an issue is handled and in those cases where it is true the protesting still serves to establish or strengthen a taboo. But even if people were always as lethargic as you describe why speak out against the little bit of enthusiasm they have left? Seems rather counter-productive.

Because their enthusiasm is just for stringing someone from the highest tree; they're not interested in finding the causes of the problem, they're not interested in fixing what we've got left to work with, they're just interested in vengeance. There’s a serious mental problem here; just as much in the sort of person who goes around screaming for blood as in the kid that beats up animals. [QUOTE=MrFancypants;4810100]If there was no taboo advertising such activities in public wouldn't lead to any change that decrease them anyway. Rather there would be imitation because of the success of the original perpetrator. So voicing your opinon about animal cruelty still has more of an effect against it than accepting it or even actively deconstructing a taboo by criticising it.

Being ill isn’t a taboo but we still do something about it.




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#40 10 years ago
Anson357;4810601His name and face over the internet, inevitable. His address, that's a little too much. But they should still put him in juvy.

'Cuz if someone gets in there head to beat the kid up the site is held responsible I think?


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